Another fake Cup patch

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Not the biggest rookie, but nonetheless faked goods.

Old Sharks logo. And no photoshoots wearing older jerseys (like in 05/06 products that come to mind) LOL. Some patch fakers should at least do some research. :|
 
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Wow is that ever blatant.

Definitely not going to buy any patch cards from ebayer: eddros1
 
For giggles I just sent the seller this message:

Hi there. How did you get the fake patch into the patch window. And shouldn't you disclose that you in fact altered this card? If I send you some of my cards, will you make the patches nicer for me?

I'll post up any response I get...
 
I'm actually very interested by what he's gonna answer Jeremy, as I've dealt quite a bit with him... He has a huge Kariya collection that he's slowly parting up with, and I've picked quite a few pieces from him in the last year or so...
 
I'm actually very interested by what he's gonna answer Jeremy, as I've dealt quite a bit with him... He has a huge Kariya collection that he's slowly parting up with, and I've picked quite a few pieces from him in the last year or so...

I went through a few pages of his feedback as seller and saw your name there quite a few times although most were for UM slabbed pieces. I doubt that every card he sells is fake but your concern is certainly warranted.

If anyone knows who this seller is, I'm sure the lot of us would be curious to know so we can avoid his cards at shows and the various forums.
 
I just bought an ITG Superlative Ilya Kovalchuk autograph from him... no issues at all.

Not a patch card so not really relevant to the discussion. This thread is about him selling fake patch cards.
 
Item no longer listed. LOL. And if you look at his feedback as a buyer, the mini Sharks patch that is now on the Wingels is here in its original form - so not even really a discussion.

And nowhere on the Sharks old game used/worn uniforms did they make a patch to that scale. I'd say busted.
 
How do you know he didn't trade for it or buy it? Maybe he was selling something he thought was legit. I think your question assumed too many things.

With the great detective work on the first reply on this thread, yes it was an assumption but with the totality of the circumstances I think the odds are that the seller most likely faked the patch. Check my reply a few posts up.
 
How do you know he didn't trade for it or buy it? Maybe he was selling something he thought was legit. I think your question assumed too many things.

I think your statement assumed too much innocence on the seller.

The seller just bought an exact patch on ebay, which still can be seen on his feedback as a buyer.

Luckily, the seller got greedy and put a high BIN. If he had put it at $75, it probably would have been sold and nobody would have caught this. This was at the bottom of the listing too under "questions"

Questions and answers about this item
Q: 250??! What's you best price direct PayPal?
A: I do not expect $250.00 for the card.......just trying to get people to bid......thanks! :-)
Nov 20, 2012

Although the listing has ended, the seller could have still sold it privately to the unsuspecting eager buyer.
 
I think your statement assumed too much innocence on the seller.

The seller just bought an exact patch on ebay, which still can be seen on his feedback as a buyer.

Luckily, the seller got greedy and put a high BIN. If he had put it at $75, it probably would have been sold and nobody would have caught this. This was at the bottom of the listing too under "questions"

Questions and answers about this item
Q: 250??! What's you best price direct PayPal?
A: I do not expect $250.00 for the card.......just trying to get people to bid......thanks! :-)
Nov 20, 2012

Although the listing has ended, the seller could have still sold it privately to the unsuspecting eager buyer.

So...because I'm not waving a pitchfork you think I assumed the seller is innocent? I honestly could care less if its fake or real, so assumed neither.
 
So...because I'm not waving a pitchfork you think I assumed the seller is innocent? I honestly could care less if its fake or real, so assumed neither.

Just for argument sake, without prejudice.

You countered with the statement, "How do you know he didn't trade for it or buy it? Maybe he was selling something he thought was legit."

That is true because since we are not privy to the seller's thoughts and have not heard a first hand confession of knowingly selling a fraudulent card.

But the same can be used to counter your statement. How do you know that the seller didn't know? You don't either.

But because the seller has purchased a patch recently which bears a striking resemblance to the patch on the card, it does raise some suspicion.

With all things being equal, it doesn't look good for the seller.

I'm not saying that he's a regular patch faker, but just this card looks highly suspicious, and buyers should beware.

Maybe he's a huge SJ fan who lives in New Jersey and wanted to buy a Sharks patch just for fun. Maybe not.

IMO, this isn't a blind witch hunt. If it looks, smells, and sounds like a duck...

I don't think I posted anything that would it make it seem like I'm jumping to an illogical conclusion. Plus in the OP the poster states that in their opinion that patches like the one seen on the card wasn't on any Sharks GU jerseys. I am assuming by his handle that the OP is a Sharks fan/collector and has some level of expertise on SJ jerseys/patches.

As for not really caring about faked patches, that's too bad. I thought that collectors would care if there were faked patches out there. This is what I thought this forum and community was about. Looking out and helping each other out in the hobby.

I'll have no problem admitting that I jumped to conclusions, and even offer up an apology, if the seller provides a current picture of the patch he purchased.
 
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I think it's relevant to his character... but anyway.

I love the "but anyway" ending to your post. I will not take it personally even though it is a slight against me.

We have been chasing down patch fakers for several years and they all sell legit cards too. But if you are happy to do business with frauds, that is your choice. Like you however, I do not think he has good character or character worth defending....but anyway.

How do you know he didn't trade for it or buy it? Maybe he was selling something he thought was legit. I think your question assumed too many things.

Did you even review the whole case? The guy purchased a sharks patch and then sells this card. Doesn't take a genius to put two plus two together here.

Do either of you know this seller?
 
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Heads up as its been relisted -- also under the "ask a question" function I asked typed this out:

Hi there. The year that the Sharks stopped wearing the logo where this patch came from was 07/08. This is a full 3-4 years before Tommy Wingels even had any photoshoot with Upper Deck or game with the Sharks. Is it possible that this patch is faked and that you purchased it not knowing? Plus, the San Jose Sharks never had a jersey that had this patch (the head of the Shark and the teeth) made to this scale. I sincerely hope that you had not purchased this card in hopes of reselling because if so, I sincerely doubt the legitimacy/authenticity of this card. If I were you, I would seek out the person you obtained this card from and ask for a refund. Just a heads up as there is a large base of collectors out there that may recognize these very facts regarding this patch and may call YOUR OWN legitimacy and reputation into question as an ebay seller.

.....see what I did there :)
 
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