2018/19 Upper Deck Trilogy... STILL no Rasmus Dahlin autographs.

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Upper Deck sent out the checklist today and the #1 pick from the 2018 NHL entry draft STILL doesn't have any autographed cards available... *SIGH*



(PLEASE don't turn this into an anti-UD thread. I'm willing to take their side in this matter... For now.)
 
Not sure what’s happening, maybe he just isn’t signing for anyone? Odd to say the least. Would love to see what’s actually going on
 
Who cares? He’s not McDavid, he won’t drive products THAT much. As long as he is in the product , that’s good enough for now. When you get to sets that matter for signatures like SPA and The Cup, then people should gripe.
 
I asked UD reps at the Expo about him. He hasn’t committed to signing for anyone. Sounds like another top rookie not having autos in UD products. Thank goodness Pettersson has proven to be the #1 rookie.
 
That's a bummer for sure, hopefully he signs. I know some athletes don't really care too much about the cards, but collectors sure do.
 
TheGriceBoys said:
Who cares? He’s not McDavid, he won’t drive products THAT much. As long as he is in the product , that’s good enough for now. When you get to sets that matter for signatures like SPA and The Cup, then people should gripe.
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Obviously the OP cares, and at least one other person based on the two threads just on the first page alone.

I really, REALLY want to block you, but your posts are generally so dumpster fire awful that I just have to slow down to look.

Carry on.
 
spooner9ball said:
Obviously the OP cares, and at least one other person based on the two threads just on the first page alone.

I really, REALLY want to block you, but your posts are generally so dumpster fire awful that I just have to slow down to look.

Carry on.
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LOL they are entertaining but cringe-inducing
 
TheGriceBoys said:
Who cares? He’s not McDavid, he won’t drive products THAT much. As long as he is in the product , that’s good enough for now. When you get to sets that matter for signatures like SPA and The Cup, then people should gripe.
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"There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"


No, he's not McDavid. But maybe he's better. He's HOPE. Hope for a very tired fanbase. He's a good thing in a town that hasn't had much good come from caring about sports for a long time. THAT is good for the collecting community and hobby in general.


You're entitled to your opinion. I have a few myself about specific parts of Southern California, but I respect that some people chose to live there. But, you know, everybody cares about something, and everything has someone who cares about it.

Who cares? It would seem more people than you think.





Now, as for the original topic. As I mentioned in a different thread, I was told Dahlin has an agreement with Fanatics that included a provision against any public signings. I'm told Fanatics wanted to set up a signing with Rasmus locally in Buffalo, but realized the contract actually didn't allow ANY type of signing. I would imagine that shouldn't directly conflict with signing with UD, but who knows how the wording played out.
 
It's a bummer if he doesn't sign, not just rookie autos but into the future as well. You want to see autos of good/great players on the market for those who want to collect them even if they don't necessarily move product or sell for big money.
 
spooner9ball said:
Obviously the OP cares, and at least one other person based on the two threads just on the first page alone.

I really, REALLY want to block you, but your posts are generally so dumpster fire awful that I just have to slow down to look.

Carry on.
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The original poster asked not to go anti-UD which would reveal the truth about why there aren’t autographs, but would also be anti-UD. ;)

I’m not sure why you hate, I bring good discussion to the table and a lot of facts, not opinions, is that a bad thing? Maybe my delivery is not your cup of tea, and that’s cool, but you won’t see me bad mouthing you anytime soon because you’re entitled your thoughts on here as much as I am. So instead of continually bashing me in public, why not just send a PM with your gripes? Or how about countering with some legit feedback or thoughts? Or are you just looking to stir the pot and get people all dramatic on here about hockey cards? Hockey cards, yep, we are talking about hockey cards.
 
As an addendum, I apologize to the original poster, the "who cares" wasn't directed at who so much as it was the UD problem in general.

Honestly, if you guys want to have them produce higher quality products or have better players included, you have to take the power away and stop backing them with your dollars. If they can't sell product because you guys don't approve of it, or like it, they will be forced to do things to try and entice your wallet.

JayKayZee said:

Now, as for the original topic. As I mentioned in a different thread, I was told Dahlin has an agreement with Fanatics that included a provision against any public signings. I'm told Fanatics wanted to set up a signing with Rasmus locally in Buffalo, but realized the contract actually didn't allow ANY type of signing. I would imagine that shouldn't directly conflict with signing with UD, but who knows how the wording played out.
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This is information, this is good stuff. Now would you believe UD can't get him to sign or won't have him sign, meaning they will not shell out the bucks necessary to do so? The track record is there is with them and getting athletes to sign due to lack of funding.
 
TheGriceBoys said:
Who cares? He’s not McDavid, he won’t drive products THAT much. As long as he is in the product , that’s good enough for now. When you get to sets that matter for signatures like SPA and The Cup, then people should gripe.
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I don't care if it doesn't drive product, that's something a card shop or dealer should care about. I care about having the best rookies and their autos from the sets I follow in my collection.
 
junyab said:
I don't care if it doesn't drive product, that's something a card shop or dealer should care about. I care about having the best rookies and their autos from the sets I follow in my collection.
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The original poster has a card shop.

And to the second part, read the rest of my comments how you guys can help change what UD delivers. Also note what the person with pertinent info about him doing signings said.
 
Since Dahlin is willing to sign for Fanatics, I think it's safe to assume he's willing to sign autographs. If he was able to get a "no public appearance" clause worked into that deal - I'm guessing he's not eager to sign lots of them, and the fact that he has not signed for UD reinforces that.

What does UD pay per autograph to rookies? I'm guessing it's only a few dollars. $5 per??

If he's told them he's not interested in signing 1000s of cards (or stickers) and not signing AT ALL for such a little price - they're in a really weird spot.

Suppose they can get him to agree to sign a couple hundred cards for each of Ultimate & The Cup....and 1100 for SPA (FW, FW Auto / Patch). Let's just call it an even 1,500 cards - while I think most rookies are doing more like 5k.

Also suppose they have to pay him two or three times more per autograph than they typically pay rookies (let's say $15 per, instead of $5, but I'm really just making up numbers).

That won't have a whole lot of effect this year, but it could really hit them in the years to follow - if more and more big name rookies follow suit.

I know a lot of people grumbled about Eichel, Patrick, and Hischier being signed to Leaf exclusives... and not having any auto'd Rookie Cards.... but if you're talking about players who have no real love for this hobby, and see signing cards as something they're stuck doing - not something they want to do.... if Leaf is going to pay more per auto, and ask them to sign less - isn't that how they ended up with those three?

For the guy that played 1 game last year, and they now want him to sign 5,000 times - The extra pay cheque might be very welcomed. For the guys looking at it as a pain more than anything.... Dahlin could be setting a new precedent that UD might now like.
 
I think the economics behind the signature is the driving force. If he has signed with FANatics exclusively with certain clauses, could he be using them as a middle agent to increase the value of his signature? If anything, the lessons learned by having Eichel, Patrick, & Hischier sign exclusive non-UD contracts is to actually see how Leaf has abused their exclusivity of these talented young stars. Eichel had signed almost all of his Leaf cards that they created, or it seemed like that. There were no shortage of Patrick & Hischier auto’s in the products released.

Dahlin is a D-man. To compare him with Pettersson and McDavid (forwards) on the same plane is idiotic. Dahlin should be on the same plane as Hedman or Ekblad or other 1st rounders of the same caliber or position. And it takes a very talented player to make a team turning from the depths to playoff contention alone.

He is a talented D-man. He naturally has an up hill battle to get hobby respect and value.
 
Maple Leaf Sports said:
Upper Deck sent out the checklist today and the #1 pick from the 2018 NHL entry draft STILL doesn't have any autographed cards available... *SIGH*



(PLEASE don't turn this into an anti-UD thread. I'm willing to take their side in this matter... For now.)
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I didn’t do it!!!
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Brian
 
I hope he signs with UD, at least for his big ticket cards in SPA and The Cup. But I get why he doesn't want to sign autographs, as he probably thinks it's a pain and wants to focus on other things. For collectors it sucks, but we can't force him to do anything he straight up doesn't want to do.

Plus I heard he's really shy so I get why he wouldn't want to do any public appearances unless he has to. I suspect this would change in the future once he gets a bit older and more comfortable.
 

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