#400 For Fleury: W/Poll (HOFer?)

[Leafsfan1967]

Congratulations to Marc Andre Fleury on win #400 in his NHL career. He is currently in 13th place on the all-time NHL goalie wins list, only 1 win behind Osgood in 12th (http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-goalies-all-time-wins-leaders.html). 7 more wins this year is definitely possible, which would tie him with Glenn Hall for 10th all-time at 407 wins. If he plays a few more years, and is successful, he could end up in the top 4, or even 3rd most wins ever. :clap:

With his Cup wins, and his 400+ wins does make him a lock for the HOF? I think it does, but there are many who would disagree. I've met the man, and have friends who are very close to Flower, and he is not only one hell of a goalie, but an even better human being. I for one hope he gets there (HHOF) some day. :dance:

So, my question to you fine folks is: Will MAF get into the Hockey all Of Fame? Please post your vote (all in good fun), and feel free to discuss, and even add a few scans of MAF, in memory of his 400th NHL win. :bliss:

 

[chefjason]

I sure hope so, 400 wins is nothing to shake a stick at and 500 is certainly within reach, if he goes 3 more years at 30 wins each which is very possible the way Vegas is playing

 

[geschrocks33]

400 wins, 3 Cups, a Gold Medal, I think he's pretty deserving.

 

[gomaz]

He's a lock. Carey Price is becoming the opposite.

 

[30ranfordfan]

I don't know if he's a lock, because I don't know what the HOF voters thing of goalies anymore.

There are currently 12 others ahead of him in all time wins. How many are not HOFers? Osgood & Cujo... Luongo & Lundqvist are still playing. Are Luongo & Lundqvist locks? (I don't think they are).

I can't even use the 3 Cups as reason to call him a lock, as that's how many Osgood has as well.

Having said all that - if I were casting a vote.... MAF could retire tomorrow, and I'd vote "yes" on his HOF inclusion.

 

[Maple Leaf Sports]

Career wins are an over-rated stat IMO... Are they a product of being on a strong team or playing a really long time? (Curtis Joseph has 454 wins)


Fleury’s career numbers and accomplishments are similar to those of Mike Vernon, John VanBiesbrouck, Andy Moog, Chris Osgood and Tom Barasso (and their not in the Hall).


So I voted ‘no’. But if he stays healthy and has a few more very productive years, then I may change my vote.

 

[TanguayFan]

He's a lock. Carey Price is becoming the opposite.

These are exactly my feelings too. You make a great point, Jeremy. Price's career is not shaping up to be one of Hall of Fame caliber.

 

[gomaz]

These are exactly my feelings too. You make a great point, Jeremy. Price's career is not shaping up to be one of Hall of Fame caliber.

Thanks Rob, I’m happy we see this the exact same way!

 

[weasel-king]

Wow, I just realized Lundqvist is the only non-Canadian in the top 13.

 

[cburt]

He's a lock. Carey Price is becoming the opposite.

I also agree with MAF getting in. Price is trending in the opposite direction for sure, but if he can turn things around next season and beyond, who knows? He still has a lot of hockey left to play in his career.

 

[bto3105]

Take no offence Wings fans but if Fleury doesn't win a cup with Vegas or some other team he's in the same boat as Ozzy and that debate continues.

Carey Price.... so sad as his fall is caused by the front office in Montreal.

 

[Leafsfan1967]

The way he has played this year, and this playoffs so far, I think that Fleury is making a huge argument for being a 1st ballot HOF'er. His play so far in the playoffs is off the chart. I am convinced he's going to The Hall.

 

[tiger tiger]

If he leads Vegas to the cup, he's in for sure.

 

[creasecollector]

I think he's a lock already (3 cups so far, International Medals, 400+ wins [should get to 500+ wins if he stays healthy]), and if he leads Vegas to a Cup it will be even sweeter.

 

[oasis]

I hope he makes it, there is quite the logjam at goalie though even after marty gets in this year!

Cujo, ozzie, Barrasso, vernon...

 

[27Leafs27]

Definitely a HOFer, no doubt in my mind.

Dan.

 

[odjickfan]

If the Knights win the Cup this year, he gets in easy for sure!

 

[pathshot]

When comparing Fleury to players with similar numbers, voters are going to remember the following:

-The save on Lidstrom that clinched the first Cup of the Crosby era.
-The 2016-17 Cup run, where he carried the team on his back for two rounds with Murray and Letang both out of action.
-This season in Vegas, from expansion draft through however it ends.
-His ambassadorship for the game as he left Pittsburgh for Vegas, and one of the most emotional departures this side of Gretzky or Bourque as he left the only NHL team he knew.

This is a player that voters will want in the Hall, so he'll get there quickly. The fact he received a greater second act once Murray appeared in Pittsburgh is going to overshadow mediocre playoff performances and early exits. Those who have met him, who've sat in the locker room with him, they're going to root for him. Maybe not first ballot unless he wins a Cup in Vegas, but I don't see how you don't give him an edge over guys like Joseph (Cups), Osgood (lack of success outside of Detroit), or Barrasso (media handling). Not to suggest some of these dudes who aren't there yet don't belong, but you can make strong arguments as to why Fleury goes in first.

 

[creasecollector]

When comparing Fleury to players with similar numbers, voters are going to remember the following:

-The save on Lidstrom that clinched the first Cup of the Crosby era.
-The 2016-17 Cup run, where he carried the team on his back for two rounds with Murray and Letang both out of action.
-This season in Vegas, from expansion draft through however it ends.
-His ambassadorship for the game as he left Pittsburgh for Vegas, and one of the most emotional departures this side of Gretzky or Bourque as he left the only NHL team he knew.

This is a player that voters will want in the Hall, so he'll get there quickly. The fact he received a greater second act once Murray appeared in Pittsburgh is going to overshadow mediocre playoff performances and early exits. Those who have met him, who've sat in the locker room with him, they're going to root for him. Maybe not first ballot unless he wins a Cup in Vegas, but I don't see how you don't give him an edge over guys like Joseph (Cups), Osgood (lack of success outside of Detroit), or Barrasso (media handling). Not to suggest some of these dudes who aren't there yet don't belong, but you can make strong arguments as to why Fleury goes in first.

Great points, I agree with them all.

However, I still think whoever is on the ballot when Fleury is up for the vote, he will get in as a first ballot Hall Of Famer.

Keep in mind, his career isn't even over yet and his career numbers are still ongoing. Fleury still has a lot of hockey left in him even at 33 years old. Some of his veteran peers include Lundqvist (36 y/o), Miller (37 y/o) and Luongo (39 y/o) are still playing.