Affliction 2: Day of Reckoning Jan 24th, 2009

Let me say first... Screw you, Dana White, for airing the Lesnar/Couture fight tonight for free, just two months after I paid $45 for it. I swear, from this day on, I will never pay for another UFC PPV..... EVER!!!

Agreed the UFC is so greasy. I am not buying Penn vs. GSP.

Third, absolutly no respect for Dan Lauzon. Not one of those three "groin shots" hit him in the spot.

Agreed that was a joke.

God was I worried for Lindland. That was the worst KO I have ever seen. It took him about 8 minutes to realize where he was.

No kidding that may have been the sickest KO of all time.

I really want to see Barnett/Fedor, as Josh is realistically the only person that has a chance to beat him.

I can agree Barnett is the best fight for Fedor, that being said I do not think anyone can beat Fedor.

All in all a good card, however I fear the worst for Affliction. I sent in for the free promo packs to help promote the event, they never showed. Maybe Ozzy played live? I was kind of hoping to see them on TV. The crowd looked a bit small, and sadly the PPV was NOT well promoted. I think Affliction will not be lasting for very long. Hopefully something happens to give them a kick in the butt.
 
Bao Quach really disappointed me! He did not look like himself at all tonight.

To be quite honest with you Mike (and I know you'd know Bao better than all of us,) he didn't disappoint us watching at home. In fact, I quite liked watching him fight. For a little guy who I'm guessing many people assume is automatically an underdog because of his unassuming size, he did well in my eyes...just unfortunate he couldn't finish out his choke in the first round.

Agreed the UFC is so greasy. I am not buying Penn vs. GSP.

Hey guys...once again, I don't condone the UFC's actions, but I do have to say that this has been done before on a worse scale before. Vince McMahon nearly put the NWA out of business Thanksgiving of 1987 in the Starrcade/Survivor Series fiasco where the NWA announced a pay per view for Thanksgiving Night, and McMahon, capitalizing on the success of Wrestlemania III told cable providers he was going to hold an event called Survivor Series the same night, and whoever chose to air Starrcade anyway would not be allowed to air Wrestlemania IV next Spring. Considering cable companies were (and I believe still are) picking up 60% of the PPV proceeds, it's a tough spot to put people in. NWA countered by showing the Clash of the Champions for free over Wrestlemania IV. This is just a part of business and I really had no problem with what the UFC did. I half expected it, and continue to expect it to counter every Affliction event in the future.

Realistically, as far as Affliction goes, those people who want to order the PPVs will continue to order them. I (and pretty much everybody in the room with me last night) personally will never give priority to a UFC re-airing or live TV event over an Affliction event, but I guess I'm the minority UFC isn't worried about :)

It's too bad Affliction put out all their superstars last night, because I'd be interested in seeing them put out a cheap PPV airing parallel to UFC 95 to help introduce newbie UFC fans to the fed.

A couple of observations from last night:

-Though Fedor won last night, and at least one of the guys over (canucksfan77) was ecstatic, there was still a bit of disappointment in the room because we finally saw Fedor in a bit of a vulnerable state, and though I was playing the "How fast will Fedor win?" game with the guys before the fight, all of us were calling for a rematch afterwards. Arlovski was shattered after the loss, and it was saddening to see him get caught like that and tear up afterwards.

-Matt Lindland...wow. I really hope he'll be alright because I was not expecting to see that at all (I was actually thinking he'd come out with the win.)

-I was half expecting Bobby Green to win and reveal he was actually Charles "Krazy Horse" Bennett fighting under an alias. Man, what energy.

-All of us enjoyed the card top to bottom. It's a shame that they've been hinting at Affliction not being around very much longer because there's so much potential. Trump should try to put together a primetime MMA reality show of some sort with whatever network the Apprentice is on...that would really kickstart it and give it a bigger base of people to start with than the UFC and Spike if people could get a sneak preview at what they'd be watching before they committed. I believe NBC runs the Apprentice, and well...they're going to need to find something to air after the Office and 30 Rock when ER finally ends ;)
 
Maybe Ozzy played live? I was kind of hoping to see them on TV. The crowd looked a bit small, and sadly the PPV was NOT well promoted.

They didn't have a live band this time. While I enjoyed seeing Megadeth at the last show (mostly because I've always wanted to see them live), it was an MMA show. I'm really glad they didn't have a live band this time.

The crowd really looked pretty full. There were just sporadic seats open here and there. That said, I'll bet over half of the 13,228 were comps.
 
-I was half expecting Bobby Green to win and reveal he was actually Charles "Krazy Horse" Bennett fighting under an alias. Man, what energy.

Bobby is fighting for us on Feb. 26th, and that's actually a fight we would like to put together in the future... Bobby Green VS Krazy Horse. Well, we'd like to do that once Charles gets released from the hooskow.
 
I totally disagree with you that Barnett even stands a chance with Fedor, he is such a sloppy fighter and doesnt know how to finish a fight.

Barnett can't finish a fight? Funny that only four of his 24 wins are decisions. I think he knows how to finish a fight. He may be a sloppy fighter, but he does stand the best chance to beat Fedor.
 
barnett has lost against every worthy contender, fedor is a machine a true warrior with outstanding submission techniques and one hell of a stand up game. I give that match no more than 30 sec in the first round. Fedor is a true mma punisher you make a mistake and he will make you pay, by far the best technical figher in mma history.
 
barnett has lost against every worthy contender, fedor is a machine a true warrior with outstanding submission techniques and one hell of a stand up game. I give that match no more than 30 sec in the first round. Fedor is a true mma punisher you make a mistake and he will make you pay, by far the best technical figher in mma history.

Nobody is disputing that Fedor isn't the greatest ever. But you are totally lost in your statement on Barnett. He has not lost against every worthy contender. He has very credible wins over very credible and worthy contenders, such as... Alexander Emelianenko, Randy Couture, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Jeff Monson, Pedro Rizzo, and Dan Severn, just to name a few.

Like I said, nobody is disputing fedor's place in MMA history, but you are not giving Barnett the credit he is due. He's far from some "sloppy" chump that has fought a bunch of cans. He stands a better chance of beating Fedor than Arlovski did, and the fight will go well into the 2nd or 3rd round, if not to a decision after the 5th.
 
i will bet my life savings that barnett will get destroyed in the first round. I wish Arlovski would fight barnett and show everyone how crap barnett really is. Barnett reminds me of Lesner all size, no skill or finess
 
Man, I just read this on mma weekly:

MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS

– Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 (no win bonus) def. Andre Arlovski $1,500,000 (win bonus would have been $250,000)

the salaries were disclosed, I can't believe Arlovski was paid that much more than Fedor, nor have I seen a payout that large in MMA. Is Arlovski, that much more of a draw than Emelianenko?

Here are some more from the main card:

MAIN CARD FIGHTERS

– Josh Barnett $500,000 (no win bonus) def. Gilbert Yvel $30,000 (win bonus would have been $9,300)

– Vitor Belfort $200,000 (includes $80,000 win bonus) def. Matt Lindland $225,000 (win bonus would have been $75,000)

– Renato "Babalu" Sobral $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus) def. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou $50,000 (win bonus would have been $50,000)

– Paul Buentello $90,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus) def. Kiril Sidelnikov $10,000 (win bonus would have been $25,000)

– Dan Lauzon $12,000 (no win bonus) def. Bobby Green $4,000 (win bonus would have been $4,000)
 
Man, I just read this on mma weekly:

MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS

– Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 (no win bonus) def. Andre Arlovski $1,500,000 (win bonus would have been $250,000)

the salaries were disclosed, I can't believe Arlovski was paid that much more than Fedor, nor have I seen a payout that large in MMA. Is Arlovski, that much more of a draw than Emelianenko?

Fedor must be getting a cut of the PPV earnings. There's no way he can just be getting $300,000 compared to what Arlovski and even Barnett got.
 
Man, I just read this on mma weekly:

MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS

– Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 (no win bonus) def. Andre Arlovski $1,500,000 (win bonus would have been $250,000)

the salaries were disclosed, I can't believe Arlovski was paid that much more than Fedor, nor have I seen a payout that large in MMA. Is Arlovski, that much more of a draw than Emelianenko?

Darren,
Fedor had a signing bonus when he signed to Affliction that equals out to $1.3 million per fight, so Fedor actually made $1.6 million for the fight. But because it's called "a bonus", the CSAC does not require that it be disclosed to the public.
 
Thanks for the info, Mike. At first glance, I thought it was very lop-sided. Your info makes much more sense...I had no clue of the signing bonus.
 

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