Anatomy of a Complete Player Collection - Part 2

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Note: Part 1 can be found here: LINK

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Welcome to the second of two parts of a comprehensive look at my complete player collections. I'll highlight five of my collections here, with five others depicted in part one.

This thread is one of the larger threads that I have posted, and I suggest leaving it open for a couple of minutes to load before trying to read it.

Along the way, I hope to provide a little insight in the cards I've acquired and in the players themselves. Where I recall, I will tell where some of the cards came from I'll also bold the "completion card" - the one that finished the collection off. It is important to note that the "completion card" is the card that initially completed the collection - if I had to re-complete it later, those "re-completions" don't really count for quite as much to me.

Enjoy!

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Dale Rominski
Member of the Detroit Vipers: 1999-2000, 2000-2001.
Dale Rominski played four years at the University of Michigan before turning pro; perhaps because of that, he had an excellent hockey sense that helped him be one of the leaders on the young Vipers team. He retired after two seasons with the Vipers, including three games in the NHL (with one assist) for Tampa Bay, presumably to pursue other interests. How I'll remember Dale is for singlehandedly doing the best thing that happened to me in my time with the Vipers. After a discussion I had with him on how I was going to be starting play in a DekHockey league (where I played for three years before moving to college), he offered me some of his old equipment -- a stick, gloves, elbow pads, and shin pads -- and delivered it to me at my home. That kind of generosity and friendliness is a huge part of what made my time as a reporter for the Vipers so great.
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1999-00 Detroit Vipers 13 Dale Rominski
2000-01 SPx 108 Dale Rominski RC (/1500)
2000-01 SPx Spectrum 108 Dale Rominski (/50)
Rominski is one of three players in this post who made an appearance in the Vipers' last card set in 99-00. He was originally slated for 00-01 Upper Deck, but got pushed back into SPx. Despite this collection being only three cards large, I recognize it as a very difficult one. It took me two years to find the Spectrum parallel, which I obtained from FunStuff in Finland. I still regularly search for Rominski's cards, and in the three years since I picked this one up, I have yet to see another copy!

The Dale Rominski collection was certified as completed - 2002.


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Kyle Kos
Member of the Detroit Vipers: 1999-2000, 2000-2001.
To be totally honest, I don't remember much about Kyle Kos. He was part of the youth movement that really hurt the Vipers in their final two seasons; simply put, it was due to inexperience. Kos was another very friendly, humble guy, though. He has returned to the Detroit area, playing for the Motor City Mechanics of the UHL.
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1997 Bowman CHL 156 Kyle Kos
1997 Bowman CHL OPC 156 Kyle Kos
1997 Bowman CHL Autographs 36 Kyle Kos
1996-97 Red Deer Rebels Kyle Kos
1997-98 Red Deer Rebels Kyle Kos
1998-99 Red Deer Rebels Kyle Kos
1999-00 Detroit Vipers Kyle Kos
This collection really wasn't a very difficult one, though it did require a bit of patience. I had good luck with his Bowman CHL cards, and the Vipers card was certainly an easy one, as I own over 50 copies of it. I had to be more patient with the Red Deer Rebels cards, though. The 96-97 and 98-99 fell into my lap fairly easily, but I had to wait to find a collector with the 97-98. I picked it up earlier in the month and completed the collection!

The Kyle Kos collection was certified as completed - October 24, 2005.


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Gordie Dwyer
Member of the Detroit Vipers: 1999-2000, 2000-2001.
Dwyer fit the bill well as a colorful goon. He was a heck of a pugilist at the minor league level and since leaving the Vipers, did have a few stints in the NHL. At the same time, he was one of the more gracious Vipers with the fans, and did always seem to be in good spirits.
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1992 Quebec Pee-Wee Tournament 185 Gordie Dwyer
1995 Slapshot Memorial Cup 61 Gordie Dwyer
1997 Bowman CHL 53 Gordie Dwyer
1997 Bowman CHL OPC 53 Gordie Dwyer
2004-05 Lowell Lock Monsters 4 Gordie Dwyer
2004-05 Lowell Lock Monsters Photo Album 4 Gordie Dwyer
Whereas I had good luck with the Bowman CHL cards in the Kyle Kos collection, the OPC parallel of Dwyer gave me fits. I found it for 10 cents at a card show, buried in a gigantic four-row box, in a stack of about 10 four-row boxes. This ended up proving that a bit of searching can end up with good results! It completed the collection, and over the past year I re-completed it by picking up the two Lowell cards from the 04-05 season. Dwyer is one of a number of players I collect who made an appearance in a Quebec Pee-Wee Tournament set. There's no way around it; it's neat to see some of your favorite players at age 12!

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2000-01 Pacific 383 G. Dwyer RC/M. Posmyk
2000-01 Pacific Gold 383 G. Dwyer/M. Posmyk (/50)
2000-01 Pacific Ice Blue 383 G. Dwyer/M. Posmyk (/45)
2000-01 Pacific Copper 383 G. Dwyer/M. Posmyk (/40)
2000-01 Pacific Premiere Date 383 G. Dwyer/M. Posmyk (/40)
2001-02 SPx 192 Gordie Dwyer
00-01 Pacific parallels are very difficult to find, due to a relatively low print run, and also to a gigantic set size. Time and patience is the name of the game for those, but I was thankfully able to complete this set. Marek Posmyk is another player I collect, but I still have a lot of work to do on my collection of him. The fairly random selection of Dwyer from 01-02 SPx (by way of 01-02 Rookie Update) finishes things out here.

The Gordie Dwyer collection was certified as completed - July 23, 2004.
Most recently certified re-completed - October 24, 2005.


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Dimitri Afanasenkov
Member of the Detroit Vipers: 2000-2001.
Afanasenkov is one of my absolute favorite players. When he was on the Vipers, I could tell early on that his skill package was phenomenal, especially his stickhandling and playmaking abilities. After the Vipers folded, I was worried that he wouldn't continue his development; indeed, the Lightning organization nearly wrote him off as well. He responded by making the team out of training camp in 03-04, and playing regularly on the third line. He has the ability to make a jaw-dropping play, but the one thing eluding him is a consistent finishing touch. If he finds it, look out! For sticking through criticism and for an excellent work ethic, Afanasenkov is someone I admire.
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1998-99 Moncton Wildcats Dmitri Afanasenkov (/1150)
Is this a card, or is this not a card? It's a question I've toiled over, especially given that many teams issue these "game programs" that feature a player in a card-like design on the front, with a roster on the back. Usually, I don't consider those cards. This was a subjective call, but since this one is serial-numbered on the back, and also numbered as part of a complete set on the front, I decided to call it a "card" for the sake of my collection. Interestingly, it's also the only part of my player "card" collections that is too big to be stored easily, and thus it's the only piece of the collection I keep at home.

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1999-00 QMJHL All-Star Dmitri Afanasenkov
2000-01 Upper Deck 200 Dmitri Afanasenkov RC
2000-01 Upper Deck Exclusives Tier 1 200 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/100)
2000-01 Upper Deck Exclusives Tier 2 200 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/25)
2000-01 Upper Deck MVP 214 Dmitri Afanasenkov RC
2000-01 Upper Deck MVP Third Stars 214 Dmitri Afanasenkov
2000-01 Upper Deck MVP Second Stars 214 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/100)
2000-01 Upper Deck MVP First Stars 214 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/25)
The QMJHL all-star cards have gotten a bit of attention in Beckett recently, thanks to the inclusion of a few higher-profile players than Afanasenkov. Everything else here came surprisingly easily, and shortly after the products were released, except for the Tier 2 Exclusives. I didn't find that one until March of 2005. Also, note that the MVP Second Stars parallel is number 21/100, and 21 is the jersey number he wore while with Sherbrooke.

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2000-01 Black Diamond 65 Dmitri Afanasenkov RC (/1999)
2000-01 Black Diamond Gold 65 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/100)
2000-01 Upper Deck Ice 45 Dmitri Afanasenkov RC (/1500)
2000-01 Upper Deck Ice Stars 45 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/500)
2000-01 Upper Deck Ice Legends 45 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/150)
2000-01 Upper Deck Ice Immortals 45 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/25)
2001-02 UD Victory 388 T.Ziegler RC/D.Afanasenkov
2001-02 UD Victory Gold 388 T. Ziegler/D. Afanasenkov
2002-03 Springfield Falcons 2 Dmitri Afanasenkov
It was an exercise in rookie parallels, and though the Tim Thomas collection (below) dwarfs the difficulty of this one, my limited resources in 2001 made the Afanasenkov cards more difficult than they would be now. Only the Ice Immortals gave me trouble, but with patience I picked it up for a good price. I really like the Ice cards, especially with the four different colors of shading. On the other hand, the die-cut design that Upper Deck used makes them really hard to store in sheets without them tilting to one side. Moving on from there, surprisingly, the 01-02 UD Victory Gold took me years to find! This seems to be a hard set because no one feels like listing up junk parallels from a junk product. I collect Ziegler as well, but he has a large number of late 90's Swiss cards that I may never locate.

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2003-04 BAP Memorabilia 223 Dimitri Afanasenkov
2003-04 Topps Traded TT60 Dimitri Afanasenkov
2003-04 Topps Traded Blue TT60 Dimitri Afanasenkov (/500)
2003-04 Topps Traded Red TT60 Dimitri Afanasenkov (/100)
2003-04 Topps Traded Gold TT60 Dimitri Afanasenkov (/50)
2003-04 Pacific Complete 573 Dmitri Afanasenkov
2003-04 Pacific Complete Red 573 Dmitri Afanasenkov (/99)
2004-05 Back To Russia 6 Dmitri Afanasenkov
Is it Dimitri, Dmitry, or Dmitri? I may never know for sure! I was glad to see him get some attention from the card companies after having a very respectable 03-04 season. I recall a print of 1000 for the BAP Memorabilia update set, though I can't locate any official documentation stating as such. As for the Topps Traded parallels, they didn't contain the slightly-shiny sheen that the original Topps parallels in 02-03 and 03-04 had, which was disappointing. Be sure to note also the suit-clad gentleman behind Afanasenkov, whose face was clearly airbrushed out! The Back To Russia came from the very helpful Igor Otlivanchik, and finished this collection off!

The Dimitri Afanasenkov collection was certified as completed - June 1, 2005.


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Tim Thomas
Member of the Detroit Vipers: 1999-2000.
By far, this is my most elaborate and difficult player collection. That doesn't fit Tim too well, as he struck me as a simple guy who worked hard, went out there, and stopped some pucks as best he could. He was a favorite interview of mine as he was eloquent and helpful. Tim was also a participant in one of the more hilarious events that occurred in my time with the team; when having a bunch of the Vipers players sign a media guide, someone decided it'd be funny to start drawing on the other player's faces. It ramped up from there, and I think I ended up with as many re-arranged faces as I did autographs. If I can find that media guide (I have it somewhere!) I'll scan some of it and post it here some time. As for Tim Thomas, I'm very glad he had such a great season last year in Finland, and hopefully he can translate that succes to the Providence Bruins for 05-06.
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1999-00 Detroit Vipers 12 Tim Thomas
2000-01 Swedish Upper Deck 1 Tim Thomas
2000-01 Swedish Upper Deck Masked Men M1 Tim Thomas
2001-02 SPx Rookie Redemption R3 Tim Thomas (/1250)
2002-03 Upper Deck 429 Tim Thomas RC
2002-03 Upper Deck Exclusives 429 Tim Thomas (/75)
2002-03 SP Authentic 137 Tim Thomas RC (/900)
2002-03 UD Premier Collection 45 Tim Thomas RC (/399)
2002-03 UD Premier Collection Gold 45 Tim Thomas (/199)
The 99-00 Vipers set is my favorite design of the sets the Vipers made, and is also the most durable in terms of card quality. Nothing else here is all that special, but seeing Thomas in all these sets is just as cool now as it was obnoxious when they were still on my wantlist.

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2002-03 UD Mask Collection 143 Tim Thomas RC (/1750)
2002-03 UD Honor Roll 104 Tim Thomas RC (/1499)
2002-03 UD Top Shelf 91 Tim Thomas RC (/1125)
2002-03 Topps Chrome 162 Tim Thomas RC
2002-03 Topps Chrome Refractors 162 Tim Thomas
2002-03 Topps Chrome Black Border Refractors 162 Tim Thomas (/100)
2002-03 Vanguard 104 Tim Thomas RC (/1650)
2002-03 Vanguard LTD 104 Tim Thomas (/450)
In part due to how it scans, the Black Border Refractor is one of my favorite Thomas cards. The 02-03 Topps Chrome cards seemed to have that "bend" to them even worse than years prior, oddly. Note that while the top row is filled with dime-a-dozen Upper Deck shortprints, the UD Top Shelf was a redemption. The UD Honor Roll and UD Top Shelf cards also use the same photo.

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2002-03 Crown Royale 104 Tim Thomas RC (/2299)
2002-03 Crown Royale Purple 104 Tim Thomas (/799)
2002-03 Crown Royale Red 104 Tim Thomas (/350)
2002-03 Crown Royale Retail 104 Tim Thomas RC
2002-03 Crown Royale Blue 104 Tim Thomas (/350)
2002-03 Pacific Quest for the Cup 106 Tim Thomas RC (/950)
2002-03 Pacific Quest for the Cup Gold 106 Tim Thomas (/325)
Hooray for color-chasing. There was enough variation in serial numbering in this case to keep me from being too irritated, although the retail RC was actually the hardest to find. Despite the higher value of the RCs in the next picture down, the Quest for the Cup RC was the last Pacific Tim Thomas RC I received.

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2002-03 Private Stock Reserve 154 Tim Thomas RC (/99)
2002-03 Private Stock Reserve Blue 154 Tim Thomas (/250)
2002-03 Private Stock Reserve Red 154 Tim Thomas (/50)
2002-03 Private Stock Reserve Retail 154 Tim Thomas RC (/1550)
2002-03 Titanium Retail 106 Tim Thomas RC (/1475)
2002-03 Titanium 106 Tim Thomas RC (/99)
2002-03 Titanium Blue 106 Tim Thomas (/450)
2002-03 Titanium Red 106 Tim Thomas (/299)
Only the true hobby RCs gave me any trouble here. The rarest of the batch (Private Stock Reserve Red) was one of the first ones I found, while the Titanium hobby RC took me over a year to bring in!

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2002-03 Parkhurst 244 Tim Thomas RC (/500)
2002-03 Parkhurst Bronze 244 Tim Thomas (/100)
2002-03 Parkhurst Silver 244 Tim Thomas (/50)
2002-03 Parkhurst Gold 244 Tim Thomas (/10)
2002-03 Between the Pipes Jerseys 38 Tim Thomas (/90)
2002-03 Between the Pipes 63 Tim Thomas RC
2002-03 Between the Pipes Silver 63 Tim Thomas (/100)
2002-03 Between the Pipes Gold 63 Tim Thomas (/10)
With two cards out of ten here, this was far from an easy page to complete. I had to trade a heck of a lot for the Between the Pipes gold. After searching very hard for a long time, the Parkhurst gold completed the collection at 57 cards a couple of months ago, and wasn't really too difficult to acquire!

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2002-03 BAP Ultimate Memorabilia 45 Tim Thomas RC (/250)
As I'm not a fan of graded cards, I can't say that this is a favorite. Eventually, I'd like to pick up another copy and break the case on this one, so that I can put a copy in my binder with the rest of the collection.

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2002-03 BAP All-Star Edition 116 Tim Thomas RC (/100)
2002-03 BAP All-Star Edition Silver 116 Tim Thomas (/20)
2002-03 BAP All-Star Edition Gold 116 Tim Thomas (1/1)
2002-03 BAP Memorabilia 383 Tim Thomas RC
2004-05 ITG Heroes and Prospects Net Prospects 16 Tim Thomas (/60)
2004-05 ITG Heroes and Prospects Net Prospects Gold 16 Tim Thomas (/20)
There is something strangely gratifying about slipping the 1/1 in with the rest of the collection as if it were just another card. In that simple context, the All-Star trifecta is extremely visually attractive. Simultaneously, the importance of the 1/1 to the collection speaks for itself. The silver came from Goalpucks, and the gold came from Chance, after rescuing it from Action Coin and Card.
The BAP Memorabilia is from the very, very tough update set. It's one of only a handful I've ever seen, and there are still players from that set I'm trying to locate. The matching jersey cards are quite nice as well. Both the BAP Memorabilia and gold Heroes and Prospects jersey came from Wayne Bailey.


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2002-03 Finnish Cardset 277 Tim Thomas
2002-03 Providence Bruins 20 Tim Thomas
2003-04 Providence Bruins 18 Tim Thomas
2004-05 Finnish Cardset 63 Tim Thomas
2004-05 Finnish Cardset Autograph Tim Thomas
2004-05 Finnish Cardset Stars of the Game 13 Tim Thomas
2004-05 Pure Skills 117 Tim Thomas
2004-05 Pure Skills Gold 117 Tim Thomas (/100)
2004-05 Pure Skills The Wall TT Tim Thomas
In his time with the Providence Bruins, and his time in Finland as well, Thomas had a number of cards released. All of these were tough to find, at least to an extent. The autograph has only between 80 and 100 copies made, and came by way of Sauli (BlindThomen). Thus far, it's the only certified autograph card that Thomas has. The Pure Skills cards came by way of Vic (Howe1850). Also, the "The Wall" insert likely has no more than 200 copies printed. The "faded" appearance on the scan is the result of a very unique refractive coating that looks stunning up close, and totally unlike anything else I've ever seen!

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2005-06 Finnish Cardset 51 Tim Thomas
2005-06 Finnish Cardset Super Snatchers 7 Tim Thomas
2004-05 Jokerit Postcards Tim Thomas
Two new Finnish cards, and a team postcard, finish up the Thomas collection. I might not have even known that the postcard existed if I hadn't asked a person I was dealing with in Finland to check. It's the only one I've ever even heard of existing. It's likely that Thomas will have a card or two produced this year, as he's playing for a Providence Bruins team that always produces card sets.

The Tim Thomas collection was certified as completed - September 14, 2005.
Most recently certified re-completed - October 24, 2005.


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Notes:

**Well, with this series done, what will I be sharing next? Howabout the entire Kevin Weekes collection, to the roughly 95% I've got it at? Yeah, sounds good to me too! I expect that'll be another two-part series, but upcoming Upper Deck products will drive a serious wrench in the progress of the collection. I'll probably wait to kill a few of the upcoming Upper Deck sets before I do the post - meaning, don't look for it for another month or two.

**How close am I to completing more player collections? Here's a glance at the collections I'm only short one or two cards from completion of:

Need one card for:
Dan Kesa, Ben Clymer, Kyle Freadrich
Ryan Hoople, Bobby Jay, Mike Jones

Need two cards for:
Travis Brigley, Matt Elich, Kaspars Astashenko, Jeff Shevalier, Samuel St. Pierre
Andy Bezeau, Darren Banks, John Gruden, Shawn Maltby

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That'll be it. Thanks everyone!

LINKS:
http://www.beckett.com/userpages/hatzosman6.html - Homepage/Wantlist/Tradelist
http://fiveninety.dyndns.org/~thegreatzo/players/players.html - Player Collection Website
http://fiveninety.dyndns.org/~thegreatzo/vipersrc/vipersrc.html - Vipers Best-RCs Project
 
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Congrats. Another great read Andy, I love reading the stories, it reminds me of all the great times with the Lumberjacks.
A little off topic but do you happen to know where Zac Bierk is playing this year?
Zach
 
Speaking of Afanasankov...did you see him get NAILED by Ovechkin on OPEN ICE last night at the Tampa-Caps game?? Oh, no, you didnt, since you were only listening to the game on the radio ;)

Just kiddin man. Definately some sweet collections. Congrats.
 
Andy, thank you for the great pics!

It's great to finally see the Thomas collection as a whole.
I'm glad I was able to help you with the Thomas Auto, didn't know it's his only one.
 
Lalimefan40 said:
Congrats. Another great read Andy, I love reading the stories, it reminds me of all the great times with the Lumberjacks.
A little off topic but do you happen to know where Zac Bierk is playing this year?
Zach

Thanks Zach. Honestly... I've searched and searched and can't find any record of Zac's plans or stats from this year. It doesn't appear that he's playing at all, but I found no announcement of retirement either. Let this be an unsolved mystery and maybe one of us will figure it out.

LecavalierFan said:
Speaking of Afanasankov...did you see him get NAILED by Ovechkin on OPEN ICE last night at the Tampa-Caps game?? Oh, no, you didnt, since you were only listening to the game on the radio ;)

Just kiddin man. Definately some sweet collections. Congrats.

I was waiting for this :D The difference between Ovechkin and Afanasenkov is that one of the two has a team surrounding them ;)

And, thanks!

BlindThomen said:
Andy, thank you for the great pics!

It's great to finally see the Thomas collection as a whole.
I'm glad I was able to help you with the Thomas Auto, didn't know it's his only one.

Interestingly enough, I don't have any Thomas in-person autographs on cards (though as I mentioned I'm sure I do in a media guide). I have 9 of the 15 cards from the 99-00 Detroit Vipers set signed, perhaps I'll make it a goal to try and finish it off TTM this year! (err... Kyle Freadrich is retired and out of the picture. Maybe I can go for 14.)
 
hey andy, very nice writing and collection !!

and i got a question regarding Tim Thomas, whats the deal with Tim changing his mask 3 times during the course when he was playing for Boston ??

you have any idea ?

Tom
 

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