Best Hockey Card Rookie Class Ever...90-91 or 05-06??

[Triple B]

05/06 seems just as mass produced as 90/91 was...I lived through both as a collector and even from a monetary standpoint, 90/91 was MUCH better than 05/06. Rookie Card value may have been different, but only in 90/91 could I buy a case of Upper Deck and sort all of the cards into stacks and sell EVERYTHING FOR BOOK VALUE.

In terms of players, 90/91 wins again. That was such an amazing time...shows every weekend, stores on every corner and even though there were so many cards, the hobby was on a rampage.

 

[k13]

Hobby Value Wise - Hands down 05-06. Still is up to this point.

Rookies doing well and turning out as stars 90-91. But arguable?


To be honest, if you aren't comparing hobby value, but instead as pure talent, who really knows? The NHL was much easier back in the 90s. Skating around people like pylons, scoring from center ice, going five-hole while a goalie is standing? Doesn't exist today or just maybe once in a blue moon. Athletes should be compared to those of their time. You can't compare one generation to another. Frankly, I don't think any, or at least the majority of them from 90-91, will do well in the modern era. Athletes are that much better now.

Imagine putting an Ovechkin (when he was a rookie) in 90-91... he'll run through everyone like dominos and score 80+ goals. Same with a big Perry or Getzlaf.

Lol, imagine doing the opposite and putting the 90-91 class into the modern NHL, they'll turn out average at best. They are a lot smaller.

Athletes get better over time, so does the game. They are only good during their own generation.

The "stars" of today are not bigger than the 90's lemieux, jagr, sundin, lindros,etc.

They are actually smaller...crosby, St Louis , stamkos, malkin.

 

[k13]

Jagr is 40 + and top 20 in scoring on the puck dead devils.

Shows how pathetic the nhl is right now.

 

[newfiecomicguy1]

Sorry but I have to ask how old you are? You should watch the older hockey games on ESPN classic. The games were brutal rough and you could get away with murder esp in playoffs and playoff OT. Players could actually hit, hold, spear, hook, slash and get away with pretty much everything. Players today are soft!!! Back than players would give and do anything for their team to win. See Bobby Clark vs Russia in 72.

You are comparing apples to oranges. If the players from those days had the equipment and training todays players have plus the heart and desire they had back than they would dominate today. Take Ovy and put him back in those old skates and lack of training and he would be no different than guys from that era. Great players are great players no matter when. However todays soft players wouldn't survive the old rough game if they had the New NHL attitude of ME first before the team.

Hobby Value Wise - Hands down 05-06. Still is up to this point.

Rookies doing well and turning out as stars 90-91. But arguable?


To be honest, if you aren't comparing hobby value, but instead as pure talent, who really knows? The NHL was much easier back in the 90s. Skating around people like pylons, scoring from center ice, going five-hole while a goalie is standing? Doesn't exist today or just maybe once in a blue moon. Athletes should be compared to those of their time. You can't compare one generation to another. Frankly, I don't think any, or at least the majority of them from 90-91, will do well in the modern era. Athletes are that much better now.

Imagine putting an Ovechkin (when he was a rookie) in 90-91... he'll run through everyone like dominos and score 80+ goals. Same with a big Perry or Getzlaf.

Lol, imagine doing the opposite and putting the 90-91 class into the modern NHL, they'll turn out average at best. They are a lot smaller.

Athletes get better over time, so does the game. They are only good during their own generation.

 

[MMarch]

Man you guys are young.

Lindsay*-Ted Kennedy*-Howe*
Doug Bentley*-Maurice Richard*- Harry Watson*
Mosienko*-Edgar Laprade*-Geoffrion*
Mosdell-Delvecchio*-Bert Olmstead*


D:
Harvey*-Kelly*
Tom Johnson*-Stanley*
Butch Bouchard*-Fern Flaman*
Bill Quackenbush*

G
Sawchuk*
Lumley*
Rayner*


1951-52 Parkhurst

* = 21 of 22 Hall of Famers

I win. Thread over. Get off my lawn!

:devil:

Love it, harnassing your inner Randy!

 

[Yipper]

First off, why are you bumping threads from almost 2 years ago.

Not saying these items are not a valid discussion, but when the topic has "died" from almost 2 years ago, I would usually start a new topic.

Most annoying is when people bump sale threads from years ago.

I understand you are new and it appears you are looking to add post counts to your resume instead of creating your own thread because of that reason of being new, but please look at the dates.

And I agree, I used the wrong terminology. Player's weren't smaller. But definitely in today's game, they are better built, physically. More in shape as an average between all players in the league.

The "stars" of today are not bigger than the 90's lemieux, jagr, sundin, lindros,etc.

They are actually smaller...crosby, St Louis , stamkos, malkin.

Jagr is 40 + and top 20 in scoring on the puck dead devils.

Shows how pathetic the nhl is right now.

I'm a 90s kid. I remember all those guys growing up. They are the only reason why I watched the game, and played the game growing up.

I know I'm comparing apples to oranges. That is why I said "Athletes get better over time, so does the game. They are only good during their own generation."

In general, I strongly believe today's athletes as a whole are better built than any from the past.

I can see any player now being placed in the past and doing better or significantly better than they currently are, simply because the game has grown a lot more and competition to succeed is so much more demanding.

Doing the opposite and putting the 90s athletes in todays game. They are not going to be doing nearly as well as the past. With a few exceptions.

Therefore: "Athletes get better over time, so does the game. They are only good during their own generation."

Sorry but I have to ask how old you are? You should watch the older hockey games on ESPN classic. The games were brutal rough and you could get away with murder esp in playoffs and playoff OT. Players could actually hit, hold, spear, hook, slash and get away with pretty much everything. Players today are soft!!! Back than players would give and do anything for their team to win. See Bobby Clark vs Russia in 72.

You are comparing apples to oranges. If the players from those days had the equipment and training todays players have plus the heart and desire they had back than they would dominate today. Take Ovy and put him back in those old skates and lack of training and he would be no different than guys from that era. Great players are great players no matter when. However todays soft players wouldn't survive the old rough game if they had the New NHL attitude of ME first before the team.

 

[k13]

Maybe compared to the 50's - 7's

But 90's players would do just fine in today's game.

Wilt chamberlain would still be the best center right now in the nba