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I'll start :beer:


- Graded cards are overrated
- Jumbo cards/mini cards are cool
- seeing bedard UD S2 cards in every S&T thread is annoying :|
 
I'll start :beer:


- Graded cards are overrated
- Jumbo cards/mini cards are cool
- seeing bedard UD S2 cards in every S&T thread is annoying :|

Man, I have to agree with all of these!!!:beer::beer:

At the last Expo, it seems like graded cards where at every table. Could care less for them.

I love the jumbo YG's that are in blasters!

I am over Bedard already. Sorry all :devil:
 
I agree with #1, would never pay to have someone else tell me what condition my card is in.

#2, don’t mind either jumbo or smaller cards,.

#3 Not Bedard’s fault but series two has been priced out of reach for a bunch of us. Looks like this maybe the future for collecting, so called generational players driving the market too high for the average collector. just my two cents,ignore as needed.
Cheers
Dan.
 
Agree on the graded card deal! I have only graded four cards in my lifetime. One was my Gretzky rookie. With so many fakes out there i wanted it not only protected but proof it was real.

I have always liked the jumbo young guns. Something different


As for Bedard I like to see what people are pulling since he is the chase for now. I have posted my UD 2 breaks with what Bedard cards I have pulled. So guilty in your eyes.
 
I agree with each point, with a real soft spot for mini cards!

Another topic, although perhaps too high level. In my opinion, the hobby made the transition from a hobby to an industry somewhere near the turn of the century, and is now morphing into a greed-based investment option. I’m so glad I’m at the back end of collecting and just grabbing the odd piece here and there. I can’t imagine many new “collectors” looking to hockey cards for enjoyment. It’s currently somewhere between an expensive habit, and a greed-addiction. It’s too bad for the average collector.
 
I'm with you on the graded. As was already mentioned - when I was in the market for a Gretzky RC a bunch of years ago..... I was only interested in a graded copy, because there's was too many fakes out there.

For vintage cards, I do get the appeal. A PSA 8 is going to be rare for a card from 1975.

Modern? I don't understand the appeal at all. Don't get me wrong - I recognize that a PSA 10 McDavid YG is going to sell for a lot more than a raw copy will..... so if you're looking to flip cards, there's value to be gained in getting them graded (people WILL pay that premium). For a collector wanting to simply own the card? That's what I don't get (unless you're planning to own it, until it's time to flip it....).

I was chatting with another member the other day about some of the stuff I've seen slabbed out there. I question why on earth someone would spend the money to get A Leaf Patch / Auto card, numbered /5, graded (particularly when it was clearly NOT a 10... the card in question got an 8). Another was a UD Buyback Autograph, that had been slabbed as 'Authentic'. Ummm, okay? How is that going to add "value" to those cards?

I can accept that a Bedard YG that gets a PSA 10 is worth more than a PSA 9, or a raw version - you've spent the money to show that yours is in perfect condition, separating it from those that are not. But if the print run is tiny, and it's a card that isn't going to have a lot of market activity - why bother? The only answer I can come up with, is that there's a segment of the hobby who thinks you need to grade anything that has value.

I'll admit too, part of my issue with graded cards extends to slabbed cards of any kind.... and also to booklets, jumbos or tallboys. I can't put them with the rest of my cards, so it's a pain! Some of them do look great though (Minis, at least, can still be stored with regular sized one).
 
I'll start :beer:


- Graded cards are overrated
- Jumbo cards/mini cards are cool
- seeing bedard UD S2 cards in every S&T thread is annoying :|


Im so glad someone else has the same train thought of mind!!
Number 1 RIGHT ON! i couldn't agree more
Number 2 absolutely!
Number 3 has me going bat sh!t crazy even with the feed from FB groups spamming my wall..... its like enough already..
 
for me right now it's.........

I open a case of Series 2 and get one Bedard YG (fine), But, everyone else pulls a Bedard YG from one box
 
I’ll weigh in:

Disagree with #1 (sort of) it doesn’t make sense (to me) to really have anything other than RC cards graded. For MY collection, I want my Rookie year Taylor Hall cards graded 9.5 or better then slabbed so that they will stay that way for years and I can handle them, let others hold them and not have to worry about any realistic damage.


Number 2: agree. Jumbo cards are neat even if a little cumbersome. Mini cards are fine as well.

Number 3: disagree. I fully know most of the time if a thread is going to have Bedard in it as it’s often in the title. If I get tired of seeing Bedard- I just stop reading those threads. It’s not a big deal. Next year it will be a different rookie everyone is chasing and so on and so forth. It is what it is.

I DO like that this thread is generating some discussion and conversation highlighting each persons different preferences. All good.
 
It feels like we are rapidly reaching a point where only 5 players are worth anything and almost everything else is basically worthless. I suppose this is good for the pure collectors of everything else, but I don't see how this is sustainable.
 
I hate abiding by the definition of what a "true rookie" is. Rookies can be parallels and inserts as far as I care. Collect what you like and don't let a guide that no one uses tell you what is a rookie or what you should collect
 
I hate abiding by the definition of what a "true rookie" is. Rookies can be parallels and inserts as far as I care. Collect what you like and don't let a guide that no one uses tell you what is a rookie or what you should collect

This. I actually get ANYTHING from Hall’s Rookie YEAR (10-11) graded. Parallels, GU, anything. If it’s from his Rookie year- it’s getting graded for me.
 
One thing I forgot to add yesterday is ebay's authentication service

There are times when its necessary (Gretzky RC, Jordan RC, etc) but is it really needed for every card over $250? Bought a card a while ago auto /50 produced in 2021-22, is it REALLY needed??


If anything should be optional at times


** also one random question about this, If I were to send a booklet card in a magnet holder and it had to go through the authentication process, would the buyer get the case too? Or do they put it in one of those stupid booklet things?
 
1) Graded cards are stupid. So here's my biggest issue....
Putting a premium on a "10" means that not every copy is perfect right? So then someone pulls a card with a fuzzy corner and demands a replacement!

Doesn't this undermine the whole premise of grading? Like the whole point is that some cards are good, some are bad! I have zero graded cards in my collection.

Pair that with getting a 9, cracking it, and resub for 10???? What a farce!

2) People complaining about scotch tape or dirty cases.....
To each their own, but the first thing I do when I get a Luongo card is throw away whatever its in, and put it in my brand new case, then cover, and put away. It's that simple and I never think the case or a bit of tape is a game breaker

3) I like patch cards better than Auto's! No reason why, just more appealing to me!
 
I completely disagree with you on this. I love the authentication program. I list without returns and I have never had to worry about any possible scamming issues as of yet when I sell an item that qualifies. Never have to worry about item not received issues, scammers or buyers remorse. It also prevents item not as described abuse by the buyer to game free returns.

One thing I forgot to add yesterday is ebay's authentication service

There are times when its necessary (Gretzky RC, Jordan RC, etc) but is it really needed for every card over $250? Bought a card a while ago auto /50 produced in 2021-22, is it REALLY needed??


If anything should be optional at times
 

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