Incredible Gretzky rookie on Ebay

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Amazing card, no doubt. But I doubt someone will pay that high for it. KSA is okay, but BGS and PSA versions would be more valuable. It will be interesting to monitor that auction to see what happens.
 
Why would anyone get such a high profile card graded by KSA? Also, I don't mean to open a can of worms here, but the seller is nototrious for laser cutting cards...is he not?
 
koondog44 said:
Why would anyone get such a high profile card graded by KSA? Also, I don't mean to open a can of worms here, but the seller is nototrious for laser cutting cards...is he not?
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If what you say about the seller is true, maybe thats why he went to KSA to grade his card. Beckett/PSA would noticed that it was tampered with. Now, I could be ignorant but perhaps KSA doesn't know if cards were tampered with.
*not sure if laser cutting is considered tampering. Some might say yes/no.
 
punkoholic said:
If what you say about the seller is true, maybe thats why he went to KSA to grade his card. Beckett/PSA would noticed that it was tampered with. Now, I could be ignorant but perhaps KSA doesn't know if cards were tampered with.
*not sure if laser cutting is considered tampering. Some might say yes/no.
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I don't think it really matters as far as Beckett noticing. Most of his cards are graded by BGS. Who knows, perhaps he was REALLY lucky and pulled the BGS 10's he is currently selling too :rolleyes:
 
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Burner said:
What parallel blue lines?
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The two blue lines run just below the place on the back where it says playing
record. Also where the cartoon character is, the lines pass through the puck and the one skate. The lines are a lot easier to see in person than they are in that scan. But they are definitely there.Great card for sure.:)
 
koondog44 said:
I don't think it really matters as far as Beckett noticing. Most of his cards are graded by BGS. Who knows, perhaps he was REALLY lucky and pulled the BGS 10's he is currently selling too :rolleyes:
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He probably went with KSA as this was likely a BGS 8.5 and KSA offered a 10 which MIGHT give him a little more cash.
 
Scan for Refernce regarding Blue Print lines....

My Gretzky scanned for those interested in the blue lines..

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Still,what a Beauty Card. As for the Lines,never really knew much about them.I've got one with and one without.....Is there really much difference in collectability?
 
bto3105 said:
Still,what a Beauty Card. As for the Lines,never really knew much about them.I've got one with and one without.....Is there really much difference in collectability?
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I know the blue lines signify the card was a first printing. I guess a problem occured during the first run causing the lines. Cards made later wont have these lines.

As far as collectability these cards certainly seem to demand a small premium. I'm not sure if they are more limited or not, but they are sought after.
 
Since most of his cards are graded by BGS, (and everyone knows they are laser cut, BGS doesn't penalize laser cut cards while PSA won't grade them), I speculate that either:

1. BGS didn't award the card a satisfactory grade so he gave it to KSA, or
2. KSA approached him to allow them to grade such a pristine card in order for KSA to get a little attention in the graded card market where they are a minor player.

I will reiterate though that the card is stellar. Nonetheless, I would prefer a PSA 9 with the rough edges for my collection (PSA 10 being out of my range by around $75K). My preference is for packed out cards, not laser cut.
 
I'm reading a book called "The Card: Collectors, Con Men, and the True Story of History's Most Desired Baseball Card" which outlines the history of the Honus Wagner T-206 baseball card, which is baseball's most valuable card. Seems that this card was also cut from a sheet, yet still incredibly remains as valuable as it is. Makes me laugh because it seems that this crooked practice actually didn't start in Guelph, Ontario.
 
Triple B said:
I'm reading a book called "The Card: Collectors, Con Men, and the True Story of History's Most Desired Baseball Card" which outlines the history of the Honus Wagner T-206 baseball card, which is baseball's most valuable card. Seems that this card was also cut from a sheet, yet still incredibly remains as valuable as it is. Makes me laugh because it seems that this crooked practice actually didn't start in Guelph, Ontario.
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Is that the one that was part owned by Gretzky and flipped for a huge profit?

I keep meaning to read the book some day seems very a very interesting history
 
Martin Sports has been sheet cutting cards for a long time and this Gretzky is no different. That being said it all comes down to personal taste if you agree with sheet cutting cards. I myself have no issue with it and truth be told, you could open 500 cases of 79-80 OPC and not hit a perfect Gretzky RC with perfect centering and edges. Some even say that the PSA 10 Gretzky was sheet cut and then inserted into a tampered pack before it was opened in front of PSA. Who knows but it makes for a great story ;)

I agree with Gomaz this is probably done by KSA to help promote thier grading services. Which might mean they bumped the grade a bit but IMO KSA grade just as hard and probably harder than PSA and BGS and from what I can tell are pretty reputable and are trying to build a trust-worthy organization. I have seen very few KSA 10 cards from any year - let alone 79-80.

For the record PSA does not grade cut cards but BGS does and I guess so does KSA.

Peter
 
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koondog44 said:
Why would anyone get such a high profile card graded by KSA? Also, I don't mean to open a can of worms here, but the seller is nototrious for laser cutting cards...is he not?
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Out of curiosity I wonder if there could be more elaboration concerning the laser cut cards, only because I have nearly purchased a card from this seller prior without knowing.

How does one go about this?
Where is he getting the sheets that are not damaged at all, to be laser cutting?
Is this considered tampering, or a legit practice?

Any further elaboration would be appreciated.
 

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