Likely repatched Mike Richards 3 color Cup RC BGS 9.5 82/199 on ebay!

[mwdonald]

After reading the fake Cam Fowler Cup gold RC thread here it made me want to post this thread even though I'm not 100% the two cards are the same. But judging by the autos, the seller, and the fact that the serial numbers appear to both be 82/199 I'll go ahead with this thread. If someone wants to message the seller and ask if the serial number is 82/199 that would seal the deal here. For anyone wondering the seller is a known Kenny ebay ID.

Original:

Repatched:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/05-06-UD-Cup-Rookie-Mike-Richards-Auto-Patch-199-RC-BGS-9-5-3CL-/251077469435?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8885474681668089730

 

[crankshaft]

The auto matches up perfectly, I'd say you are right on that one! Good find...
Rod

 

[TanguayFan]

Further proof that graded cards are as big a crock of BS as the patch faking itself. There is no possible way anybody could fake a patch and still leave the card in what should be BGS9.5 condition.

 

[dahabsfan]

Yet another account of you know who. 100% fake guaranteed.

 

[crankshaft]

Further proof that graded cards are as big a crock of BS as the patch faking itself. There is no possible way anybody could fake a patch and still leave the card in what should be BGS9.5 condition.

If you're really good it (which Kenny has had TONS of experience with so I assume he is) I don't see why he couldn't leave it in perfect condition actually??? Am I missing something?

They don't authenticate the patch so why can't it be in 9.5 with a different patch in it?

Rod

 

[tiger tiger]

wow...that totally sucks that you can get a faked card graded and slabbed. Makes me even more gun shy about going after higher end cards. Seems too easy to fake.

 

[bucyk1965]

wow...that totally sucks that you can get a faked card graded and slabbed
+1

 

[TanguayFan]

If you're really good it (which Kenny has had TONS of experience with so I assume he is) I don't see why he couldn't leave it in perfect condition actually??? Am I missing something?

They don't authenticate the patch so why can't it be in 9.5 with a different patch in it?

Rod

If UD can't get them into the packs in mint condition the majority of the time, how is somebody going to attack a card with a scalpel and not leave even the tiniest shred of evidence? I mean there has to be a chip, scratch, nick, SOMETHING. Anything that should theoretically bring the grade down from BGS9.5 to an 8.5 or 9 even. If a repatched card is grading out at a 9.5, then that tells me that whoever was doing the grading certainly wasn't looking close enough.

 

[Fritz]

If UD can't get them into the packs in mint condition the majority of the time, how is somebody going to attack a card with a scalpel and not leave even the tiniest shred of evidence? I mean there has to be a chip, scratch, nick, SOMETHING. Anything that should theoretically bring the grade down from BGS9.5 to an 8.5 or 9 even. If a repatched card is grading out at a 9.5, then that tells me that whoever was doing the grading certainly wasn't looking close enough.

patch material is flexible, they likely just cut the old one all to pieces & slip the new one right in place

 

[timber09]

patch material is flexible, they likely just cut the old one all to pieces & slip the new one right in place

There is also a lot more room to work on a plain white swatch and I have heard that you can glue the patch right on top of the existing white patch in certain cases - I have no idea if this is true or not but it seems to be possible.

 

[Stadium Sports]

wow...that totally sucks that you can get a faked card graded and slabbed
+1

Been that way for quite some time...

Don't forget, they were grading reprinted Gretzky RC's before it was known that they were reprinting them....

 

[chakhae1]

For those who want his number I found it while cleaning out my room. That's all I have to say about that!

 

[mwdonald]

Listing has been removed! I think only ebay can do that when they deem the listing inappropriate, fraudulent, etc. Hopefully our messages to ebay got through to them on this card/seller. Not that this will slow Kenny down or prevent him from using one of his other 10 ebay IDs but it's a start.

 

[chakhae1]

^

This has happened in the past and he will never stop until he's behind bars. I think it's about time someone called the cops b/c clearly this guy just doesn't get it.

 

[hccollector]

Did anyone get a copy (picture) of the eBay Reworked patch?

Thanks
D

 

[mwdonald]

Did anyone get a copy (picture) of the eBay Reworked patch?

Thanks
D

Here you go! Thanks to Neil for saving the image because I forgot to!