Need Help - 2012-13 ITG Forever Rivals Game Used Jerseys

[junyab]

I only got into the hobby in the 16-17 season so anything prior to that I only know what the internet tells me. After looking for Shayne Corson cards I stumbled on this set and later bought this one on COMC:

After I bought I was trying to figure out all the versions and what not.

I was able to find this checklist in regards to the series:

50 Cards – Print Run #/130
Parallels: Silver #/30; Gold #/10
Patch Parallels: Blue/Red #/6; Silver #/3; Gold 1/1

So my question is where does this card fall in the checklist?

It says its the "Silver Version", but also says its "1 of 1".

Also on COMC is this one, a "Red Version" "1 of 1":

Can anyone explain these "1 of 1"s since the checklist says there should only be a Gold version of them?

 

[DaveLefebvre]

This card is from ITG final vault. Came out I believe 3? Years ago. ITG bought back all old stock they sold, stamped them, and put out a final product with all years/products included

Make a long story short - this would be a card produced on top of the original print run. Set aside for replacement

 

[junyab]

Thank you!

So my guess is there is probably a 1 of 1 for each of the colors mentioned in the checklist - Silver, Blue, Red etc.

 

[30ranfordfan]

Yes? Maybe? Not exactly sure.....

50 Cards – Print Run #/130
Parallels: Silver #/30; Gold #/10
Patch Parallels: Blue/Red #/6; Silver #/3; Gold 1/1

Those above print runs are what was released into the product. You can find times when mistakes were made (i.e. 6 copies of something existing, that should have only had 5) but I think as a general rule, ITG's print runs should be taken at face value. In the case of this Corson, there were 130 of them inserted into packs.

ITG made extra copies of their cards though. Held back for quality reasons (replace damaged cards type thing) but also used for promotional purposes. If you busted boxes as the expo (for example) there was often show stamped 1/1s given away. They were identical cards to what went into packs, but extra foil (similar to the Vault stamp) was added.

When ITG was closing up shop, the mass amounts of these extra cards were released with stamps added to them. There is no checklist available, but these production notes exist for the Game Used stuff:

Red: at least 1 card in product
Blue: at least 2 cards in product
Green: at least 3 cards in product
Silver: at least 4 cards in product
Gold: at least 5 cards in product
Black: at least 6 cards in product
Pink: at least 7 cards in product
Purple: at least 8 cards in product
Copper: at least 9 cards in product
Teal: at least 10 cards in product

So for your Corson - You've got a Red Stamp. That doesn't mean that other Silver Jersey cards don't exist with different stamps, but it doesn't mean they do either. If you had (for example) a Corson with a Gold Vault 1/1 Stamp... then you would know that Red, Blue, Green, and Silver also exist.

Really, at the time of putting together the Vault release.... if they had one Corson they stamped it and packed it out, if they had 10 they stamped them all with different colours (making them all "1/1s") and packed them all out.

That the Silver Corson jersey card has a Vault version - doesn't mean that the Gold version of the card, or patch variations, has Vault versions either... but it doesn't mean they don't.

Thank you!

So my guess is there is probably a 1 of 1 for each of the colors mentioned in the checklist - Silver, Blue, Red etc.

 

[junyab]

thx ranford for the expanded explanation