never buying a pre sell box again.long read

JonX

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2 months ago i had trouble with ebay user bostonsox45 about a a presell box i bought and they never delivered, (got my money back through paypal) then saw this other box of 04 Yankee classics product that looked nice the user had over 6000 positives at the time so i tought that it would be okay

then last week the day after the prodcut went live i get this email from the seller:

To all Yankee Classics auction winners: I am having significant trouble with all of my ebay dealings right now because of being taken for close to $40,000 from HODG63 & Bostonsox45 both who are no longer on ebay. I have many people wanting merchandise they purchased from me that I had made arrangements with this two dealers to provide. I intend to make right on all my sales but now have to raise funds to do so. My paypal account is on limited status so I cannot make refunds through it right now. I have to coordinate this all with a lawyer who will collect you requests and then we will come up with a plan in a couple of weeks to how we are going to take care of everyone. Please contanct him and not me for this. His name is Howard White and he can be reached at 715-831-9565 or [email protected]. I am truly sorry for this problemm and am working hard to correct this as soon as possible. Greg


so i decided to contact his lawyer heres the reply

To customers of Greg Brown,
Probably the most efficient way for me to communicate with most of you is
via e-mail. I am trying to make sure I reach everyone with an e-mail
address that I have a copy of so if you are listed twice I apologize. I
wanted to err on the side of over-inclusion rather than omitting anyone. I
am receiving approximately 40 e-mails daily and over 20 phone calls. I have
spoken to some of you, but to return all of the phone calls would be to
ignore the rest of my practice. I am sending this e-mail in the hopes that
it will give you some update.
As I stated in previous contact I have instructed Mr. Brown to go out and
attempt to obtain financing to repay each and every one of you. When
possible he is also attempting to obtain replacement product for shipment.
I will be meeting with him this Thur. to discuss his progress. We will also
be looking at a list of all people who are owed money or product as well as
his prospects for recovery from his suppliers. I want to stress, however,
that your payment is not being conditioned upon his recovery. I believe
Greg will need to hire an atty in Texas to pursue his supplier in court even
if that happens to be bankruptcy court. I have practiced in the bankruptcy
field for almost 23 years and believe that a debt such as his may be found
by the court to be one that cannot be discharged. This is one of the
reasons I have suggested to Greg that bkcy may not be a good alternative for
him.
Again, I will be meeting with Greg in 2 days. I will send an update to
you following that meeting. At the present time I cannot answer who will
get paid first, will product be available, how long wil this process take,
etc. All I can tell you is that I will do my best to keep you informed and
encourage Mr. Brown to continue his quest to make good on these sales with
product or refunds. Thank you for your patience.
Very truly yours,
Howard White


it looks as tough the seller got ripped off and is really trying to fullfill his commitment , hopefully i can recover the money or get some replacement product, but i am never buying a pre sell again and you guys be aware of those too
 
Like you said, at least he is trying to fulfill his obligations. Many people wouldn't even bother. Glad to this guy has a conscience.

That being said, I dislike presells. Hope you get your money back!
 
This is precisely why I never deal anything that isn't in my hands, or that I can't guarantee will be in my hands. I'm sorry you got taken - and that so many others fell victim as well. At least the person with whom you dealt appears to be dealing in good faith.
 
Have you checked out the owner of the email address or the phone number to ensure it is indeed legit? I hate to be a cynic, but the easiest way sometimes to cover up a scam is to make it LOOK legitimate! Once you've determined the attorney is legit, definitely file your claim, as insignificant as it maybe compared to the total case.

The whole thing stinks to me, anyway you look at it, but I really hope you get retribution.

Cory
 
ill get my moeny back oor some sort of compensation, if not voluntarily, ill just sue him

working for the quebec justice departement does have his perks if not for the salary then i have a lot of contacts in othe rprivinces or some northen states of the US
 
last time i did a pre-sell was a box of black diamond 03-04 from Jim Wright..
80 US down the drain
filed for bankruptcy...
blaeh
 
I've had mixed success with pre-sells. Bought a case of 03/04 UD series 2. Got it at a good enough price that I was able to open a third and resell the rest to make my money back. Then I pre-bought a case of 03/04 UD Rookie Update and right after the PayPal charge back deadline hit, he went NARU. I won't touch pre-sells anymore, no matter what the price.
 
Jon, PLEASE KEEP ME UPDATED!!!!!!

I just bought 2 boxes of 04/05 Fleer Throwbacks Basketball via Presell from bostonsox45 right after Christmas. The lady said the pre-sell got bumped up to January 26th release date. But then all of a sudden she is no longer registered and doesnt answer emails.

Please let me know, I do not want to be ripped off for the $100 I spent on 2 boxes!

Please give me any helpful info via PM!


THANKS!!!!!!!!!
 
Jon

Sorry to hear about your experiences! That really bites! :mad:

I'm of the same thought IRT to presells! I've put them to the 10 ft pole category!

As 'Q' put it so well. Don't purchase something that isn't officially in hand.

I learned the hard way myself! I purchased a case via an eBay auction. The seller purchased their wares from "kobehater!" Some of you may remember that user? I did a charge-back via my CC. :cool:

Anyways, hopefully this attorney is legit & you get either your presell product or cash returned!

Brian
 

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