Notable players without a Young Guns

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Was looking up Markstrom cards and noticed he didn't have a YG even though he's in just about every other set, including hard signed autos... but this made me wonder which other notable players are missing from the most popular hockey set?

Jonathan Quick
Max Pacioretty
Jakob Markstrom
Andrew Ladd
Devon Toews
Mike Green
Tomas Tatar
Marian Hossa
Nick Jensen
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Ryan Dzingel
Pekka Rinne
Mark Giordano
Lee Stempniak
Mikhail Grabovski
Sergei Kostitsyn

anyone else?

Also, if UD did an update set for these guys and inserted them into a recent Series 1/2 release similar to the Eichel FW Auto, would it be collectable?
 
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Mee for sure, mind you my rookie card was in the same year as Lemieux. He stole my thunder.. just sayin
 
As a Wings collector I can think of Tomas Tatar, Marian Hossa, Mike Green, Nick Jensen are a few that come to mind
 
Niklas Hjalmarsson and Ryan Dzingel :(

As far as a player many people would be interested in unlike my two players, Corey Crawford did not have one.

Burner said:
I know a while back they made YG of some veterans who were rookies before YG were even a thing but that was a major dud. It would be cool if UD made YG of these guys from their respective rookie year designs and added them as hits in Series 1/2 or something like SPA.
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Good idea in theory, but I really do not like seeing cards added to sets years later. It's being done more and more and I don't like it. If the player was missed the first time around, that's that. Period. Move on. I don't consider them to be rookie cards. It's gimmicky and unnecessary. Update rookies are an entirely different thing...like if a player doesn't sign his cards on time and then they're released the next year, no biggie, it happens. The intention from the start was always that those cards would exist. But going back years later and creating a card for a player that was overlooked? Nope.

BrookIsland said:
Are you making the distinction between Eichel's/Hischier's cards in 18-19 SPA/Cup releases (i.e., the cards were manufactured/autographed in 2019/2020 but are purportedly for sets from 2015-16/2017/18), as distinct from like updates to the 2018-19 limited auto set in SPA from Michael Granlund that are included in 2019-20 packs because the player didn't sign in time (i.e., the 18-19 cards were manufactured at the same time as all other 18-19 cards just didn't get back to UD in time)?

If so, I totally hear you in the quasi-reinventing history point but, and maybe this is just me, but I really like having the Eichel signed SPA auto hits even if they are re-issued and technically "XRC" and not "RCs".
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No, though I don't like those either. I'm referencing things like the Scott Darling 2014-15 The Cup base rookie just released this year, things like that.
 
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Pekka Rinne never had one too..

Lesser names, but off the top of my head Grabovski, and Sergei Kostitsyn as well. I'm sure there's many, many more.
 
I know a while back they made YG of some veterans who were rookies before YG were even a thing but that was a major dud. It would be cool if UD made YG of these guys from their respective rookie year designs and added them as hits in Series 1/2 or something like SPA.
 
HammerHawks said:
Good idea in theory, but I really do not like seeing cards added to sets years later. It's being done more and more and I don't like it. If the player was missed the first time around, that's that. Period. Move on. I don't consider them to be rookie cards. It's gimmicky and unnecessary. Update rookies are an entirely different thing...like if a player doesn't sign his cards on time and then they're released the next year, no biggie, it happens. The intention from the start was always that those cards would exist. But going back years later and creating a card for a player that was overlooked? Nope.
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Are you making the distinction between Eichel's/Hischier's cards in 18-19 SPA/Cup releases (i.e., the cards were manufactured/autographed in 2019/2020 but are purportedly for sets from 2015-16/2017/18), as distinct from like updates to the 2018-19 limited auto set in SPA from Michael Granlund that are included in 2019-20 packs because the player didn't sign in time (i.e., the 18-19 cards were manufactured at the same time as all other 18-19 cards just didn't get back to UD in time)?

If so, I totally hear you in the quasi-reinventing history point but, and maybe this is just me, but I really like having the Eichel signed SPA auto hits even if they are re-issued and technically "XRC" and not "RCs".
 
Most of the biggest name players have one, of course, but there's been a lot of guys who fell through the cracks over the years, for one reason or another.

If the NHL season is delayed (i.e. it doesn't start until 2021 sometime) Upper Deck is going to have a hard time with rookie content in a lot of their products. I understand they've been given the green light to use anyone that participated in the bubble.... so that gives them some decent names. They have Laferriere, but is he available for all products, or JUST series 1?

If suddenly the Rookie Content is a bust for them... and they still insist on a Series 2.... I think doing a 50 card YG set of players from the past 10-20 years that didn't have one would be a hit. Are they rookie cards? Of course not, but the "Young Guns" name will make the cards popular.

I think they could take that a step further. They could likely scrap Series 2 all together (let's face it. If there's little-to-no Rookie content, Series 2 isn't necessary). A one off product titled "Upper Deck Young Guns" would do incredibly well:

250 card set, features players from 2000-2020 that didn't have a YG card. Keep them in chronological order, within the set, and reuse the designs from the year that the player's RCs were produced.

Since it's a rookie themed product, there's plenty of insert sets you could do (Calder winners would be an obvious one, all-rookie team, etc). Exclusives, High Gloss, Clear Cuts, Acetate, Canvas.... you can still do all of that. Heck, how many players had a YG, but NOT a Canvas YG?

For really big hits, add in buybacks (signed?). You don't even need to stamp them as anything special, if you're limiting it to just the biggest names (i.e. there is a chance for you to pull a Crosby YG from the product). Signed copies of YGs might work too.

If UD made a product like that, I guarantee you it would fly off the shelves.
 
Luongo Collector said:
When was the Darling released? I have not seen or heard of this card being produced. What set included it?
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This year, like I said. They included them in with some Pastrnak Cup RPA redemptions I believe and have likely put them in with some other redemption packages as well.

Luongo Collector said:
When was the Darling released? I have not seen or heard of this card being produced. What set included it?
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Unless I’m missing something. Did he have a RPA in the original release as a redemption and it couldn’t be made and they just now decided on doing a base rookie for him instead?

BrookIsland said:
That's what they did for both Joseph Blandisi (a 15/16 Cup RPA redemption) and Jordan Schmaltz (a 17/18 Cup RPA redemption) where instead of producing an RPA, they just produced a base card with no patch and no auto and sent a compensatory Cup auto/patch card to make up for it.

I found this frustrating but understandable as they have to have some form of cut off from when cards just aren't coming back from the players. UD isn't really at fault here, at least IMO -- it's the players not returning the cards. I've no doubt that UD would much rather just fulfill the redemptions.
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Oh absolutely. I knew that was the case about those two players, just didn't recall if it was that way for Darling. If they're just making new cards of someone who wasn't originally in the set, that's insane. But if it's because the original card couldn't be made, that's entirely different and understandable.
 
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HammerHawks said:
Unless I’m missing something. Did he have a RPA in the original release as a redemption and it couldn’t be made and they just now decided on doing a base rookie for him instead?
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That's what they did for both Joseph Blandisi (a 15/16 Cup RPA redemption) and Jordan Schmaltz (a 17/18 Cup RPA redemption) where instead of producing an RPA, they just produced a base card with no patch and no auto and sent a compensatory Cup auto/patch card to make up for it.

I found this frustrating but understandable as they have to have some form of cut off from when cards just aren't coming back from the players. UD isn't really at fault here, at least IMO -- it's the players not returning the cards. I've no doubt that UD would much rather just fulfill the redemptions.
 
I don’t think Marian Hossa counts since UD didn’t have Young Guns back then. Any star’s rookie from 93-94 (I think) to when Young Guns were re-introduced in Gaborik’s rookie year will not have a Young Guns. And naturally many rookies from the first couple of years of UD hockey’s existence and before, will not have a YG. The first YGs came out in UD hi numbers so any low numbers in 90-91 and before did not have YG.
 

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