Pre-Sales - Boxes / Cases

[meatmancgy]

Just wondering if anyone has ever bought "pre-sales" off of eBay before and what their experience has been getting the product on time, pricing, etc. Is pricing better or worse than when it actually hits the stores??

Bruce

 

[canucksftw19]

Havent bought much, been screwed over a couple times to be honest...but made up for it the last time I did (which was 3 years ago)...

I bought 2 boxes of 03/04 SPGU for onyl $70.00 each!!! which was awesome...

I ended up pulling:

Quad Patch Nucks 3/5 (beauty card, got $400)
Quad Jersey Flyers /45
a Rookie /40

Dual Auto Jersey - Giggy / ROY 21/21 4 cl

Plus a couple Dual Jersey /100...

I killed the odds it wasnt even funny, wish I could seen the other case, the stuff I got was loaded!

 

[Meth68]

Bruce be very careful for a couple reasons. Wax presales is by far the easiest to scam people out of. Even legit sellers gone bad dealing with wax because the temptation is so big (I can think of 2 very reliable case dealers that ended up running with a ton of money).

#1 presale over 30 days would mean its out of ebays range to help you out.

#2 same goes with paypal so make sure you send payment via credit card.

#3 tampered cases, sounds crazy but does happen

Just things to think about prior to making your decision. If you stick with people like blowout and queens (usa dealers not sure of any up north off hand) you will be ok. As for pricing you will not be involved in the "new" wax craziness where wax goes up for no reason even if its a horrible break. But you may fall victim to the garbage release drop like people fell for with 05/06 spa. its a gamble either way, if your sold on a product prior to release i guess its a good idea, if your on the fence i would suggest waiting a week after release to see how the product really is.

 

[aaronlo]

first experience was really sour...so ive been very hesitant recently unless i know the person well

bought a box of 03-04 black diamond presale...guy went bankrupt and i never got it..he had over 6000 feedback..

 

[Funkmobile]

Havent bought much, been screwed over a couple times to be honest...but made up for it the last time I did (which was 3 years ago)...

I bought 2 boxes of 03/04 SPGU for onyl $70.00 each!!! which was awesome...

I ended up pulling:

Quad Patch Nucks 3/5 (beauty card, got $400)
Quad Jersey Flyers /45
a Rookie /40

Dual Auto Jersey - Giggy / ROY 21/21 4 cl

Plus a couple Dual Jersey /100...

I killed the odds it wasnt even funny, wish I could seen the other case, the stuff I got was loaded!

You sure it wasn't this card I bought off you:

Oh I wouldn't even touch any of those presale cases on ebay.

The only reason why I can't think those guys are crazy enough to presale below cost is a semi-scam/Cover Your *** technique.

i.e.
Seller A isn't sure how hot Product X is going to get so he puts a rediculous price on presale.
You pre-order Product X from Seller A.
If Product X goes cold, he's more than willing to take a hit to move product for future allocation reasons
If Product X goes hot, Seller A suddenly says: oops we're presold too much than we had, sorry here's your money back.

In other words, it's lose/lose for the buyer. I've seen the feedback for a bunch of these ppl and it's full of people complaining about never receiving their cases.

It's all about the allocation game where upper deck allocates super hot product (i.e. exquisite, the cup) based on total year's purchases from each individual dealer. Seller A figures the instant loss now won't overshadow the instant gains from the super hot products. Upper Deck got tired of this product dumping and their trying to clean up with the new distribution rules that go into effect in April. We'll see if it really changes anything....