Question for UD1 Breakers - Exclusives Related

[will-411]

Morning everyone! Just a quick question - I broke three boxes of Series 1 (all from different dealers and different cases a the Expo), and I received an Exclusive or a High Gloss in each one. Considering I hit two High Gloss (Monahan base and Haydn Fleury Young Gun) and a Young Gun Exclusive (Jon Gillies) I couldn't make any inferences on how hard or easy to hit the exclusives might be this year. For those that have broken in quantity, how often are you hitting an exclusive or high gloss?

The other thing I noted was that each box had 24 other inserts, meaning the numbered card was actually the 25th insert, and that pack would have two insert cards in it.

Thank in advance for your input!

Cory

 

[malsk]

I opened two cases...

I got one YG Exclusive, two YG acetates, one high gloss /10, one Centennial variation (could be more when I find out the exact variations.).

Every box that had the Hischier had McAvoy.

One Exclusive in 24 boxes?

No sorry I had 3-4 total I think but only one was a YG.

I did only one case this year. Rough break.... Only 5 Exclusives in my case. One Gold Portraits #/99, 4 Clear Cut w/1 YG. The normal 6 Canvas YG. No HG, no Patch, no Variations, no SP Inserts (Day with the cup, etc) the typical $2 auto and a Clear Cut Superstars unnumbered. Based upon the odds, it sure looks like they ran the presses about equal to the last few years. Not sure the wax is selling though...

My two cases where not good at all either...

With group breakers and epacks I expect them to run the presses from now on.

Ok I will look later and let you know exactly how many exclusives I got...

 

[Mauri]

I opened two cases...

I got one YG Exclusive, two YG acetates, one high gloss /10, one Centennial variation (could be more when I find out the exact variations.).

Every box that had the Hischier had McAvoy.

One Exclusive in 24 boxes?

 

[geschrocks33]

Chris Carlin said on Twitter I believe that they produced less of the product than in the past 2 years, so I would expect the exclusives/HG to show up more frequently in boxes.

 

[MGiuseffi1969]

I did only one case this year. Rough break.... Only 5 Exclusives in my case. One Gold Portraits #/99, 4 Clear Cut w/1 YG. The normal 6 Canvas YG. No HG, no Patch, no Variations, no SP Inserts (Day with the cup, etc) the typical $2 auto and a Clear Cut Superstars unnumbered. Based upon the odds, it sure looks like they ran the presses about equal to the last few years. Not sure the wax is selling though...

 

[will-411]

My two cases where not good at all either...

With group breakers and epacks I expect them to run the presses from now on.

But guys, this is why I was asking how often people are hitting exclusives. They are a numbered, hobby only insert. There are only 27,500 total (110 of each of 250 cards). By comparing how often they were a hit between various years, we can at least get a comparative reference to if there were more or less hobby boxes from year to year.

Last year was only 3 or 4 exclusives/ high gloss per case, no?

Cory

 

[trekrun]

It's a possibility that more will show up on epack breaks like the McDavid HG did based on the percentage of the product being held back!

 

[MGiuseffi1969]

Last year was only 3 or 4 exclusives/ high gloss per case, no?

Cory

I don't remember... I think Series 2 these days is always around 6 per case. Not sure about Series 1 the past couple of years. If they did cut production is was maybe 10-20% is my guess. From UD's perspective this is a BIG cut, but considering the market caused by the YG content this year vs the past two, they could have cut the production 50%.

 

[junyab]

I've opened 12 boxes and 100% did not get a 10 or more clear cut/exclusives (combined).

The other thing I noted was that each box had 24 other inserts, meaning the numbered card was actually the 25th insert, and that pack would have two insert cards in it.

In the 12 boxes I've opened I was lucky enough to get 4 YGC's and 1 YGE and all of them were the 7th YG in the box. However, I know the 1 YGE was a 26th insert as it came in the same pack as a regular YG.

 

[G0SHARKSG0]

My case had 4 exclusives (one was a YG) and one High Gloss YG but doesn't seem every case has a high gloss. If we go by the math of 4 exclusives per case and theres 25,000 exclusives you have 6250 Hobby cases. And by that same math if there's 6250 hobby cases and there are a total of 2500 high gloss, then you should have 1 high gloss every 2.5 cases. Also seems standard to get 4 acetate per case and from what I've seen usually 1 of the 4 is a yg

 

[Mauri]

I understood that 15-16 Series 1 has Exclusive per case or so.

 

[Triple B]

I did two boxes and got no Exclusives but did get an Acetate YG of Luke Sedlak and a Clear Lars Eller base. I was assuming each box had one or the other, but I'm guessing no now that pthers have given their results.

 

[MGiuseffi1969]

My case had 4 exclusives (one was a YG) and one High Gloss YG but doesn't seem every case has a high gloss. If we go by the math of 4 exclusives per case and theres 25,000 exclusives you have 6250 Hobby cases. And by that same math if there's 6250 hobby cases and there are a total of 2500 high gloss, then you should have 1 high gloss every 2.5 cases. Also seems standard to get 4 acetate per case and from what I've seen usually 1 of the 4 is a yg

This all makes sense, except for a couple of points.. The 6250 cases would be a combined Hobby/EPack since exclusives are in both. My guess is maybe 70/30 Hobby vs E-Pack? That said, my case had 5 Exclusives. So, if they fall 4-5ish per case, maybe 5000ish cases of combined hobby/E-pack?

 

[burebuyer]

I hit 14 Exclusives and one High Gloss in my 3 cases.

Case 1: 4 Exclusives, 1 High Gloss
Case 2: 6 Exclusives
Case 3: 4 Exclusives

My Case 1 also had a Hischier Draft SP, Patch, Plate, & 2 Clear Cut Superstars. Case 2 only had 2 Clear Cuts Superstars, and Case 3 had 2 Clear Cut Superstars and a Day With The Cup.

Pretty much feast or famine.

-Derek-

 

[rangers6]

My case:
1 auto
6 yg canvas
6 game jerseys
5 exclusives (1-kerfoot yg exclusive)
4 acetate (1 young gun)
1 clear cut superstar
1 centennial viaration- eddie shore color image
0 high gloss
0 patches
0 day with cup

I opened 9 cases. I hit 37 exclusives, 36 Clear cuts, 6 High Gloss. If you include e-packs, I don't think the print run will be any different this year compared to the previous 2 since the odds of these are pretty much identical to 15-16 and 16-17.

Ill take all your Rangers exclusives, acetates, game jerseys and any canvas ...send me a PM Frank.

 

[frankiefives]

I opened 9 cases. I hit 37 exclusives, 36 Clear cuts, 6 High Gloss. If you include e-packs, I don't think the print run will be any different this year compared to the previous 2 since the odds of these are pretty much identical to 15-16 and 16-17.

 

[will-411]

Interesting... from a very small sample size, it appears hobby (live and epack) are similar in results to previous years. So if there is an actual decline in total printing, it may simply be on the retail side, which could make a certain kind of sense since there is no easily recognizable draw like McDavid or Matthews this time around.

Cory

 

[MGiuseffi1969]

Interesting... from a very small sample size, it appears hobby (live and epack) are similar in results to previous years. So if there is an actual decline in total printing, it may simply be on the retail side, which could make a certain kind of sense since there is no easily recognizable draw like McDavid or Matthews this time around.

Cory

Agreed. One thing to keep an eye on is if the numbered parallels fall at the same rate for the ePack case breakers. It would be a shame if they held back 1/2 of the numbered hits and they fall more frequently via epack.

 

[Mauri]

Agreed. One thing to keep an eye on is if the numbered parallels fall at the same rate for the ePack case breakers. It would be a shame if they held back 1/2 of the numbered hits and they fall more frequently via epack.

I'm ok if the percentage of product is altered, but the odds needs to be the same.