Really PSA? Authentic? I think not.

I am confused...why is it not authentic?

I realize it does not look like a nice Gretzky auto we see now a days but back in the day his auto looked much different.

Also when athletes are in a hurry it comes out a scribble.

I have to assume PSA knows what they are doing but that might be giving them too much credit.
 
I'm pretty sure there was a time period where he refused to sign his rookie cards, and when he did it was almost never a full sig. I've seen a number of them with quick scribbles that look like a W G and sometimes a Y at the end. There are quite a few PSA and JSA authenticated ones out there that look this way, I also have a 16 X 20 lithograph that he signed in person with PSA on site authenticating them with almost the exact same sig as this card. It's not what we are used to seeing but I would bet this is a real auto from him.
 
From someone who has thousands of autographs, a PSA grade means very little. I doubt some of their "experts" even know what hockey is. I've seen some bad graphs with PSA slabs and this isn't even the worst.
 
Here is an example of his early auto. I have this in my PC. It came from the Robert Thomas Collection so PSA got it right.

His auto wasn't always as artistic as it is now. I suppose after his auto became a commodity that he was getting paid $200 a pop on he wanted to deliver something pretty to his fans? Thankfully he did unlike so many current players.

The thing that concerns me about the OP auto is the ink, not the auto itself. Ink looks too bright and fresh to be more than 25 years old.



I love having such an early auto of his in my PC and on his RC no less! It's likely from the year his rookie card came out considering how it was acquired and by who. :dance:
 
Could be a early signature done in a rush. But if you were in the market for a Gretzky auto, or auto on RC, why would you buy that one?
 
gomaz said:
Here is an example of his early auto. I have this in my PC. It came from the Robert Thomas Collection so PSA got it right.

His auto wasn't always as artistic as it is now. I suppose after his auto became a commodity that he was getting paid $200 a pop on he wanted to deliver something pretty to his fans? Thankfully he did unlike so many current players.

The thing that concerns me about the OP auto is the ink, not the auto itself. Ink looks too bright and fresh to be more than 25 years old.



I love having such an early auto of his in my PC and on his RC no less! It's likely from the year his rookie card came out considering how it was acquired and by who. :dance:
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Jeremy,I am no autograph expert.But can you please point out the similarities between this two autos that leads you to say that PSA got it right.The only thing I see is blue ink and that is even way different on each card.I think if these two autos were on a white index card with no knowledge of who may have signed them that in all likely hood you would not come up with Wayne Gretzky every time.Even from some of the autograph experts that are out there.
 
winniescards said:
Jeremy,I am no autograph expert.But can you please point out the similarities between this two autos that leads you to say that PSA got it right.The only thing I see is blue ink and that is even way different on each card.I think if these two autos were on a white index card with no knowledge of who may have signed them that in all likely hood you would not come up with Wayne Gretzky every time.Even from some of the autograph experts that are out there.
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Winston, you misread my post. Go back and take another read. I said they got it right for my card, not the one that was posted by fastmax. I even went on to say that it didn't look right.
 
gomaz said:
Winston, you misread my post. Go back and take another read. I said they got it right for my card, not the one that was posted by fastmax. I even went on to say that it didn't look right.
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Yes I did misunderstand.I thought that you felt both were legit but had trouble understanding the use of modern ink if in fact it was meant to be an early auto.
Thanks for clarifying that.
 
I sign a pile of documents and if I do 10 in a row 8 looks different lol. That being said I can see similarities in Jeremy's and Gretzky's current auto. The one in the OP looks really off, it may be legit but it's nothing like any Gretzky auto I ever saw.
 
gomaz said:
Here is an example of his early auto. I have this in my PC. It came from the Robert Thomas Collection so PSA got it right.

His auto wasn't always as artistic as it is now. I suppose after his auto became a commodity that he was getting paid $200 a pop on he wanted to deliver something pretty to his fans? Thankfully he did unlike so many current players.

The thing that concerns me about the OP auto is the ink, not the auto itself. Ink looks too bright and fresh to be more than 25 years old.



I love having such an early auto of his in my PC and on his RC no less! It's likely from the year his rookie card came out considering how it was acquired and by who. :dance:
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I MISS THAT CARD. But, couldn't have ended up in a better spot.

It's possible that's an 80-81 Gretzky sig when he was ULTRA sloppy. Perhaps he had a few wobbly pops. What I don't get is why PSA would put their name on it. I don't use them for third-party, but I have seen JSA say to people, "Look, I think it's good, but it's such a terrible signature we can't have our name associated with it."

I don't know why this wouldn't happen here, but PSA must have its reasons. Maybe we could invite someone from that firm to discuss it?
 
Um...someone posted here a while back (not going to dig thru the archives) that Gretzky has a great card auto, in-person show, but a horrible catch-em-on-the-fly auto. Meaning, it this card was presented to him and he auto'd it, it would be his "quick scribble". I think the other thread may have had some example similar to this where his know scribble is more unrecognizable.

If PSA has records of legitimate Gretzky scribbles, this may be right along the lines of one of those. The other pen auto'd rc, if from his early years, looks very legit for that. The marker one looks like Wayne signed it quick as he would these days. Probably thought it was a fake since "who would ruin a Gretzky RC with an auto? Oh well." *scribble scribble*
 

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