July 30 - Fedor vs. Henderson

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Fedor Emelianenko (223) vs. Dan Henderson (207)

Women’s Welterweight Championship
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Paul Daley (171) vs. Tyron Woodley (170)
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Great looking card, would've looked even better if Gina had been cleared to fight :|:devil::beer::|. Got to give it to Sean Shelby for putting together way better, and deeper Strikeforce cards.
 
HENDO!

i am so glad he won. love that guy.

there goes the legend of fedor. sherdog has imploded.
 
Personally I can't stand that testosterone replacing tool Hendo, but I'm not really surprised he won. It was a good (very sloppy) fight while it lasted. Shocked by Miesha Tate's performance. Still pretty stunned she won. Still get to see a rematch, just figured it would be Kaufman/Coenan, not Kaufman/Tate.
 
That was one close fight. For a second I thought Fedor had Hendo beat but Hendo landed a bomb !
 
Mack said:
I guess this mean I am the only one that thought the Hendo Fedor fight ended way early.
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To me, the only thing in doubt was whether Hendo was punching Fedor in the back of the head after he was down. That's the only thing that casts any doubt on the legality of the knockout. Outside of that, I have no reason to believe Herb Dean made the wrong call. Fedor's eyes were closed and he wasn't intelligently defending himself. Sure he may have stopped it "early" but Fedor wasn't in a position to adequately defend punches from that side.

To be honest, it was only a matter of time before this happened. This was the first time I'd ever cheered against Fedor (but really, Hendo could fight my mom and it wouldn't be a lock as to who I'd be cheering for that fight) but his career's been on the downslide since the Hong-Man Choi fight. He barely beat Choi, and while he looked good enough against Tim Sylvia (but who doesn't nowadays,) he looked human and quite beatable against Arlovski and Brett Rogers leading to the last 3 fights.

I don't think it's time for him to retire (why would you retire after losing only 3 fights?) but it might be time for him to consider what happens when you become a shell of your former self and are living strictly off your name at a danger to your current health? I hate to say it (because he's one of my favorite fighters of all time,) but there's where Cro Cop's heading towards.
 
chadsexington said:
To me, the only thing in doubt was whether Hendo was punching Fedor in the back of the head after he was down. That's the only thing that casts any doubt on the legality of the knockout. Outside of that, I have no reason to believe Herb Dean made the wrong call. Fedor's eyes were closed and he wasn't intelligently defending himself. Sure he may have stopped it "early" but Fedor wasn't in a position to adequately defend punches from that side.

To be honest, it was only a matter of time before this happened. This was the first time I'd ever cheered against Fedor (but really, Hendo could fight my mom and it wouldn't be a lock as to who I'd be cheering for that fight) but his career's been on the downslide since the Hong-Man Choi fight. He barely beat Choi, and while he looked good enough against Tim Sylvia (but who doesn't nowadays,) he looked human and quite beatable against Arlovski and Brett Rogers leading to the last 3 fights.

I don't think it's time for him to retire (why would you retire after losing only 3 fights?) but it might be time for him to consider what happens when you become a shell of your former self and are living strictly off your name at a danger to your current health? I hate to say it (because he's one of my favorite fighters of all time,) but there's where Cro Cop's heading towards.
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Herb Dean was already going in to stop the fight after the upper cut. The fight was over at that point. As for Fedor, he needs to get into a real fight camp and stop training like its 1932.
 
chadsexington said:
To me, the only thing in doubt was whether Hendo was punching Fedor in the back of the head after he was down. That's the only thing that casts any doubt on the legality of the knockout. Outside of that, I have no reason to believe Herb Dean made the wrong call. Fedor's eyes were closed and he wasn't intelligently defending himself. Sure he may have stopped it "early" but Fedor wasn't in a position to adequately defend punches from that side.

To be honest, it was only a matter of time before this happened. This was the first time I'd ever cheered against Fedor (but really, Hendo could fight my mom and it wouldn't be a lock as to who I'd be cheering for that fight) but his career's been on the downslide since the Hong-Man Choi fight. He barely beat Choi, and while he looked good enough against Tim Sylvia (but who doesn't nowadays,) he looked human and quite beatable against Arlovski and Brett Rogers leading to the last 3 fights.

I don't think it's time for him to retire (why would you retire after losing only 3 fights?) but it might be time for him to consider what happens when you become a shell of your former self and are living strictly off your name at a danger to your current health? I hate to say it (because he's one of my favorite fighters of all time,) but there's where Cro Cop's heading towards.
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Fedor is 28-8. He looks "done" to me.

Hendo: blech. Never liked the guy, and overrated in my mind. Getting Fedor the way he did suggests to me that Fedor's finished.

And then Dana White can mouth off calling him a "Russian Kimbo" or something to that effect.
 
hockeyguy2006 said:
As for Fedor, he needs to get into a real fight camp and stop training like its 1932.
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heh heh...I know you said something similar to me last night, but I keep getting this mental image of the montage from Rocky IV with Fedor running up mountains and throwing boulders and ****

cards-gotta-go said:
Fedor is 28-8. He looks "done" to me.
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Ok, THIS comment's interesting. Where do you think his other 4 losses were Jai? I give him a pass against Kohsaka or whomever it was he "lost" against in Rings because that "loss" was a farce. I'm just curious which other fights you think he lost?
 
Fedor will keep fighting because he's M-1's meal ticket and they need him to keep fighting. I don't have any desire to see Fedor fight anymore, whether he actually does or not is largely irrelevant now. Time has caught up to Fedor, in the past he had freakish natural ability, and was able to dominate his opponents, but his age has shown what a shambles his training is (and has always been), and the diminishing natural ability that comes with age (for most) is crystal clear.

As for Hendo (always hated him), and Randy (always loved him) I've always marveled at how they've been able to continue fighting at such a high level at such an advanced age (for combat sport participants). And I personally have to wonder if it's because of their long time use of Testosterone Replacement Therapy. Apparently they've had medical exemptions for years to use this procedure. And when one of the problems that can facilitate ones decline is an inability to train at a level they once were able to I'm left wondering how much TRT has enabled them to thwart that.
 
chadsexington said:
Ok, THIS comment's interesting. Where do you think his other 4 losses were Jai? I give him a pass against Kohsaka or whomever it was he "lost" against in Rings because that "loss" was a farce. I'm just curious which other fights you think he lost?
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I'd read that he was 28-8 on mmajunkie or some other site. If that was incorrect, so be it. My point is that something was off - injury, unmotivated, unfocused, something else...

Methinks we've seen the last of him though.
 
cards-gotta-go said:
I'd read that he was 28-8 on mmajunkie or some other site. If that was incorrect, so be it. My point is that something was off - injury, unmotivated, unfocused, something else...
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OHHHH...Jai, Henderson's record coming in was something like 27-8-2...that might've been the mixup. Fedor's 31-4 after this loss.

I don't think we've seen the last of him in all. I think he'll probably give it a go with Dream once or twice more, but yeah, I'd agree he's probably done in North America.
 
chadsexington said:
OHHHH...Jai, Henderson's record coming in was something like 27-8-2...that might've been the mixup. Fedor's 31-4 after this loss.

I don't think we've seen the last of him in all. I think he'll probably give it a go with Dream once or twice more, but yeah, I'd agree he's probably done in North America.
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Looks like Fedor is going to have a fight in Russia later this year and then make his way to Dream. Nice call Matt! :beer:
 

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