I'm just going to put this out there but this post to me is garbage.
I collect certain cards of Devils players that feature them in a Devils uniform from sets that I like. I like to see the logo and nice picture of the player
So not even *all* cards of Devils players from sets that you like? This is where the disconnect for me comes in. You're not even striving for completeness, and you're already up in arms before the draft has even happened let alone see what the draft pick's cards even look like?
I will continue to collect the yg and sp gu rc's because they will show a picture of the player with the devils logo on them.
And what if UD chooses a pictures that for whatever reason doesn't showcase the crest well, or even at all? All this back and forth, and at the end of the day over a card that might not even float your boat once you see it? Or is it just because of the logo printed on the card and not necessarily on the actual picture being used?
Yes infact I do get upset, I was upset when John Quenneville didn't get a YG, I consider this the go to rc. You can look it up in the SPa thread. I wrote that in there. I'd love all the rc's to have a auto'd SPA rc. That's my favorite auto rc set, it's a clean and attainable release.
I agree, and I was excited myself when Kevin Hayes' FWA came out and then I saw how hideous his autograph was in my opinion, and I passed on it. I didn't get upset or riled up about it, just moved on to the next.
YG's and auto'd rc's weren't available at that time so this is not valid but they are available now so I'd like to be able to collect them as I see fit
But they also "not available" for Patrick or Hischier either, but look where we are. This is exactly what entitlement is. Exactly, full stop. The make auto RC's now, so you think you're entitled to your guy. Not so. And not garbage either.
This garbage to me. This statement is complete garbage. Why are you saying that we are spoiled? This makes no sense to me. The hobby evolved that way. It is not changing, the fact is a certain company is taking away something with the purpose of hurting the collector and another company. They are not shying away from this. It is the main objective. It's like McDonalds came in and purchased all the land that was used to grow Tim Horton's coffee beans and said sorry, but you can't have them anymore. Tims coffee drinkers would not have that freedom of choice anymore.
Totally inappropriate and incorrect analogy. Hockey cards are a finite resource. And even at its peak only less than 10 companies made them. They are often released in limited print runs, and once the year is over, the player can have no more hockey cards. Coffee is a practically unlimited resource, you can get it anywhere, and once you run out, you can easily go by more of the exact same thing. If McDonald's bought up all the sources of Tim's coffee, you'd just have to go to McDonald's and get the *same exact* coffee there. And if you say, well McDonald's coffee tastes worse than Tim's... well, they just bought Tim's supply line, so now it's the same coffee exactly. Your analogy has just completely fallen apart.
Again more garbage, specially the bolded statement. There are 99 copies of the card, everyone knows that going in. It's no secret. If you don't hit one in your case then yeah it sucks but ultimately a collector will go on the secondary market and get one if they need it. How could anyone be more upset about that then Leaf taking the possibility of the card away? This makes no sense.
I don't buy cases of cards, I'm not a group breaker, nor do I like to spend 1,000's on gambling. I buy the singles I dig, and packs of cards and the occasional box from my LCS or via retail to scratch that itch. But I certainly don;t think what you're doing by ripping cases is garbage... rather I appreciate it, as that's how the singles come to market. So... thanks! Oh and also, no one ever *needs* a card, you *want* it. Again, this is your entitlement showing. Don't shoot the messenger.
Again, I could care less about the card rising in value. I'm not after that. I'm after cards that I like. This has nothing to do with that and I have no once said anything about something rising in value. And I have asked for lesser players to have more content. I enjoy collecting Devils players as there are those that enjoy the Flyers and the Sabres. Who of them are saying awesome, I get airbrushed pictures of these players.
And that's why I said a lot of what I was saying was NOT geared towards you! Glad you're a true collector, and not a money hungry flipper. This is a good thing! Relax!
Yes we are to close, but what is stopping Leaf from doing with Patrick, Hirscher and Eichel what UD is doing with Jordan and Lebron. They effectively are. I don't see this as different.
Exactly, so why all the blind brand loyalty to UD then? They're as awful a card company as any, they've shown time and time again. So here it doesn't affect you, so you continue to purchase case after case.
If Patrick and Hirsher slip and go 3 and 4 then I would still be upset, only I would be upset for those collectors who it affects.
Yet here you say you'd be upset for other collectors who this happened to... well the Eichel exclusive happened to me, but instead of being "upset for me," you rail against my position and call it garbage? Which one is it?
I do take disrespect to this, you are implying that I shouldn't collect what I like to collect in my eyes. I have brand loyalty, product loyalty. I like certain types of cards just like I like a certain brand of coffee in the morning. I like a certain kind of protein in my shake after the gym. If UD couldn't produce auto's anymore because of something they did, or Tim's couldn't make my coffee because of something they did then it would suck, but I would move on and find something different. When an outside force comes in and blocks what I like then that's a different story.
Again, not disrespect, but your tone has spoken far louder than you may realize. Did I ever once say you shouldn't collect what you like? Why on earth would that be anyone's position? The two are completely mutually exclusive. You can absolutely collect what you like, and continue to do so. It's not like there won't be ANY Devils cards produced next year? In fact, there will be thousands. Some you will like, and purchase. And according to how you opened your post, there will be some you don't and won't. You will get a YG of both of these guys. You will get a Cup RP-not-A of both of these guys (with the opportunity overpay for an auto on it, I'm sure). You don't even know what the cards look like and you're already up in arms. You continue to demonstrate your entitlement and you don't even realize it.
You said it yourself, if Tim's coffee or your favorite protein powder was gone tomorrow, you'd move on and find something else. Same thing here... I don't see any Panini fanboys up in arms because they can't get a Dominion RPA of McDavid or Eichel or Patrick or even John Quenneville. The cards don't exist, so they just move on to the next. And can do so without lashing out at their fellow collectors.
