marvelman55
Banned User
I don't like the SOTT either, but I also wasn't a fan of last years design. I'll see what they look like, probably won't buy a box, just some packs.
08-09 SP Authentic Hockey Discussion
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andhicks
Verified Trader
Exactly
Couldn't have said it better myself.
This is one of the few sets where we should cut UD some slack. Should be another winner!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
This is one of the few sets where we should cut UD some slack. Should be another winner!
JohnnyDrama
Verified Trader,
Again, I'm not a UD basher but please explain to me the difference in the product the last 3 years aside from asthetics and the rookie crop.
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RGM81
Verified Trader
I think it was April that it came out last year, as I have some vague recollection of breaking my first box after my birthday. Of course, I'm somewhat addled so who knows.
MASTERP
Verified Trader
I will do my usual 1-2 cases of it. Love it every year except 04-05 and 05-06. Release on this is the usual April 10-20th area. It looks great this year.
They need Goligoski and Varlamov in for auto rookies also.
They need Goligoski and Varlamov in for auto rookies also.
FrankToronto
Banned User
Lots of different thoughts and perspectives here.
First, I personally don't fault UD for having a lack of originality with this year's release. When you churn out 30 products per year then a staple brand such as SPA needs to have an "SPA look". Regardless of the popularity of the designs, I think they've successfully done this while adding a bit of flair.
Now on the topic of cutting back the number of releases each year. Undoubtedly, this would be good for the growth of the hobby. But we have a ton of mid to high end releases for one sole reason: they are high margin products for UD. They are caught under the short sightedness of thinking more high margin products equals higher overall profits instead of growing the hobby. A lot of potential collectors are turned away from the oversaturation.
But SPA is not a cause of the problem. It is a set that (generally) has been deployed excellently by UD except for one very mishandled year. It is a staple product that has a strong relevant place in the hobby and any opinions on the design will be mixed as is with every product that is released.
First, I personally don't fault UD for having a lack of originality with this year's release. When you churn out 30 products per year then a staple brand such as SPA needs to have an "SPA look". Regardless of the popularity of the designs, I think they've successfully done this while adding a bit of flair.
Now on the topic of cutting back the number of releases each year. Undoubtedly, this would be good for the growth of the hobby. But we have a ton of mid to high end releases for one sole reason: they are high margin products for UD. They are caught under the short sightedness of thinking more high margin products equals higher overall profits instead of growing the hobby. A lot of potential collectors are turned away from the oversaturation.
But SPA is not a cause of the problem. It is a set that (generally) has been deployed excellently by UD except for one very mishandled year. It is a staple product that has a strong relevant place in the hobby and any opinions on the design will be mixed as is with every product that is released.
hextall27
Verified Trader,
I think the set looks great, I will be building the future watch set again this year for sure!
The elimination of the Triple-Octo Sott while loosing that extra hit will make it easier to chase the complete sott set, which I may indeed try. that could be considered good marketing on UDs part.
The elimination of the Triple-Octo Sott while loosing that extra hit will make it easier to chase the complete sott set, which I may indeed try. that could be considered good marketing on UDs part.
tealfan
Verified Trader
I like the new designs. They still look like SPA to me. They're appealing to my eyes anyway. Thanks for the pics!
hccollector
Disgruntled Habs fan ,
5 cards per pack, 24 packs per box, 12 boxes per case
Look for (3) Autographed cards per box on average!
Look for key rookies including Stamkos, Schenn, Wheeler, Filatov, Brunnstrom, Sutter, Oshie, Doughty, Boedker, Kulemin, Gillies, Mason and many more!
o At least 1 will be an Autographed Future Watch Rookie Card!
" Signed rookie patch cards - a must have - average 1 per case!
" Find Holograms - averaging 2 per box, with die-cut versions hitting 1 per case!
" Penned Perfection & Marks of Distinction equal great autographs all #d to 50 or less!
" Look for Sign of the Times Duals, averaging 1 per case!
o Triples, Quads & more give multi-signature card seekers some great chase!
" SP Limited parallels (all #'d to 100) of the entire regular set offer up valuable hits!
PRODUCT BREAKDOWN:
" SPA's Signature - Autographed Rookie Cards (combining to deliver an avg. of 1 per box!)
o Autographed Future Watch - #'d to 999
" Terrific Signature Cards (All signature cards combine to deliver 3 per box - on avg.!)
o Sign of the Times
o Sign of the Times Duos - inserted 1:288
o Sign of the Times Trios - #'d to 25
o Sign of the Times Quads - #'d to 10
o Sign of the Times Fives - #'d to 7
o Sign of the Times Sixes - #'d to 5
o Sign of the Times Sevens - #'d to 3
o Sign of the Times Eights - #'d to 3
o Penned Perfection - #'d to 50
o Marks of Distinction - #'d to 25
o Autographed Future Watch Limited Patch variation - #'d to 100
o Rookie Review Autographed Patches - #'d to 100
" Popular Hologram Cards
o SP Holo F/X - inserted 1:12
o SP Holo F/X Die-Cuts - inserted 1:288
" Rookie Cards
o Future Watch - #'d to 999
" Regular Set Parallels
o Regular Cards Limited - #'d to 100
o SP Notables Limited - #'d to 100
o Future Watch Limited - #'d to 100
" Numbered Subset
o SP Notables - #'d to 999
" Regular Cards
o 100 Regular Cards
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hccollector
Disgruntled Habs fan ,
I wish UD would go back to about 20 auto'ed FW like in 02-03 (Great RC year 
) Not 60 like last year... At least a 1/20 chance to pull a Spezza, Zetterberg. Nash or Hemsky was nice. (even 1 in 5 if you look at it that way lol)
Speaking of that, I had to go back and see on the UD website how many auto'ed FW cards that were in the set in 03 and I came across this...
It never was released as an auto...just a regular card like the one below, and I think 185 was Leclaire, but I don't want to go digging right now
Do you think UD actually had a plan back then if a player did not return his cards auto'ed? no need for a redemption we'll just release a regular RC with no auto lol
On the topic of this years SPA
FW RC/Patches look nice....the SOTT look to busy, I liked the 02/03 and the 03/04 SOTT not too busy and room for the players auto.
Just me lol
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) Not 60 like last year... At least a 1/20 chance to pull a Spezza, Zetterberg. Nash or Hemsky was nice. (even 1 in 5 if you look at it that way lol)Speaking of that, I had to go back and see on the UD website how many auto'ed FW cards that were in the set in 03 and I came across this...
It never was released as an auto...just a regular card like the one below, and I think 185 was Leclaire, but I don't want to go digging right now
Do you think UD actually had a plan back then if a player did not return his cards auto'ed? no need for a redemption we'll just release a regular RC with no auto lol
On the topic of this years SPA
FW RC/Patches look nice....the SOTT look to busy, I liked the 02/03 and the 03/04 SOTT not too busy and room for the players auto.
Just me lol
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hextall27
Verified Trader,
Apparantly the Multi autos are back
andhicks
Verified Trader
Good.
I look forward to pulling an octograph.
I look forward to pulling an octograph.
TMCards
Verified Trader,
Burner
Verified Trader,
Woohooo!!! White borders!!
I DESPISED last year's FW and the stupid trim at the top and bottom. Almost all the FW had chips or white corners on them as a result. At least the white conceals them just a little bit better
No surprises here. Redundant as expected.
hextall27
Verified Trader,
Alright there Jimbo bahaah
jonpop
Banned User
I'm sticking with the dinosaurs. Maybe hit a tooth. Or snout.
