frankiefives
Verified Trader,
I'm debating for the first time since it's inception, whether or not to crack the Cup this year. Who else is having second thoughts?
08-09 The Cup, who will crack it?
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bidds55
Verified Trader
I think there are a few sides to this one. The print run appears like it may be reduced. If Upper Deck sticks by the announcements of a 30% cut in production, then that suggests reduced supply for singles initially, which would also raise prices for singles, all else being equal.
The economy being in the crapper however, suggests less breakage, which could drive wax prices down, although initial sales of singles could also be driven higher, or at least stay the same this way.
A few big breakers (Mark, Lee & Fawad), who in past years have combined for hundreds of tins each year, have sworn off this year's stuff. While this is probably less of a factor than the other noted items, with a smaller print run, their absence may actually be felt to a small extent in wax prices.
A defense heavy rookie crop, with no rookie having the hobby love of a Crosby, Ovechkin, or even Carey Price this year, could also lead to unopened wax.
Basically, I think UD had to cut production, in order to maintain any kind of appeal at all to open this wax. The question is, how many people will actually open it, and how much. If no one opens it, then early breakers will benefit from higher singles prices on the secondary market. If the "30% cut" rumours draw people in, then it may go the other way.
Either way, I don't see myself breaking any of this. Then again, I'm not much of a wax breaker anyways.
The economy being in the crapper however, suggests less breakage, which could drive wax prices down, although initial sales of singles could also be driven higher, or at least stay the same this way.
A few big breakers (Mark, Lee & Fawad), who in past years have combined for hundreds of tins each year, have sworn off this year's stuff. While this is probably less of a factor than the other noted items, with a smaller print run, their absence may actually be felt to a small extent in wax prices.
A defense heavy rookie crop, with no rookie having the hobby love of a Crosby, Ovechkin, or even Carey Price this year, could also lead to unopened wax.
Basically, I think UD had to cut production, in order to maintain any kind of appeal at all to open this wax. The question is, how many people will actually open it, and how much. If no one opens it, then early breakers will benefit from higher singles prices on the secondary market. If the "30% cut" rumours draw people in, then it may go the other way.
Either way, I don't see myself breaking any of this. Then again, I'm not much of a wax breaker anyways.
Triple B
Verified Trader,
I likely won't, but worse than that is that it seems like the Big Three won't be either. I'd rather save the money spent on a pack and put it towards the Steve Mason RC I want to get.
cards-gotta-go
Banned User
I'm not getting anywhere near the stuff this year.
Weak rookie crop + no AO (remember that!) + bad economy = stay away
Weak rookie crop + no AO (remember that!) + bad economy = stay away
bfyler
Verified Trader
Not in my budget... Would love to pick up a Gerbe or Kennedy though.
MGiuseffi1969
Upstanding Member,
I'm in for at least a couple of cases Frank. Unless of course I enroll in a 12 step program before the product goes live.
drkicker
Verified Trader,
Letting the big boys going at it.
Unless it comes down to last year price or lower, ill cherry pick the stuff i want.
Unless it comes down to last year price or lower, ill cherry pick the stuff i want.
Orvy
Verified Trader,
I set aside the 400 for a tin last year and set my expectations low (did get a bummer tin for the most part). It's like the big end of one hobby season... so I'd like to get one again this year, we'll see.
27Leafs27
Upstanding Member,
I'm in for at least a couple of cases Frank. Unless of course I enroll in a 12 step program before the product goes live.
Perhaps an intervention is in order here Mike
Dan.
bkrysko
Verified Trader
Well I've definitely noticed the reduction, last year me and the C&C boys ordered 2 cases from our dealer and received them with no problems. This year we ordered the same but due to the amount he received we were unable to get to full cases as he had to allocate his supply evenly to his customers so we ended up getting 9 tins as opposed to 12.
However, this could end up being a good thing for collectors. Look what happened to BTP when ITG reduced production, the boxes were loaded. I don;t think there will be qa price drop but me thinks there will be a lot less scrub rookies to pull and the bigger hits will be a bit easier to pull
However, this could end up being a good thing for collectors. Look what happened to BTP when ITG reduced production, the boxes were loaded. I don;t think there will be qa price drop but me thinks there will be a lot less scrub rookies to pull and the bigger hits will be a bit easier to pull
punkoholic
Verified Trader
I'm thinking about it. Might try two but that is only if burebuyer can get me some.
Q
quincy
Guest
I've been debating it. Leaning towards "no".
Bugjam
Bure, Bure, Bure, Bure!!! ,
I'm in for at least a couple of cases Frank. Unless of course I enroll in a 12 step program before the product goes live.
Step 1: Send the 2 cases to Mr Benn Mixer, for the "cold turkey" period.
Step 2: Never ask for them back.
spiral8
Verified Trader
I'm in for one tin this year I think...though that really depends on how much x-men archives I bust next week.
Oddly enough, I didn't bust any of the Cup last year for some reason...
Oddly enough, I didn't bust any of the Cup last year for some reason...
jasonsportscard
Verified Trader
2 cases for me, normally do 3 or 4 but money is a bit tighter this year
Jason
Jason
jab16399
Verified Trader
What is the target case price in Canada and where is the best place to get one if I went a little crazy?
jasonsportscard
Verified Trader
U can assume 400.00 a tin depending on exchange rate, and for myself will be at waynes as already ordered them
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dev10323
Guest
Not me brother..................
plus, still pissed off from problems I had with the Cup uncut sheets I redeemed.
plus, still pissed off from problems I had with the Cup uncut sheets I redeemed.
cassijon
Verified Trader / Prior Infraction On File,
im in for a couple cases, would do more, but ultimate bball and exquisite are supposedly loaded this yr so will be diverting most of my funds over there
paulxing
Verified Trader,
I'm in for one maybe two cases at least. Not much to look forward to when you're a Sergei Kostitsyn collector. Might even go back and just bust 07-08 in hopes of getting that Kosty 1/1.... unless it's been pulled laready and no one told me.
