11/12 Dominion is live

Dominion's a much easier comparison to The Cup this year, because the sets are so similar in construction. In a lot of ways, 11-12 Dominion shares more of a lineage with The Cup (perhaps due to Karvin's influence) than it does with 10-11 Dominion (back in the Muir/Hall days). Taken on its own, that's neither good or bad -- just a reflection of what Panini's going for this time around.

One of the hallmarks of The Cup has always been the multiple (arguably redundant) patch/auto sets -- Limited Logos, Emblems of Endorsement, etc. Panini's gotten in on that this year with the Autographed Patches, Peerless Patches, and so on.

Panini did keep around some of the more unique sets from last year's Dominion -- benchmarks, engravatures, and the all-star embroidered autograph cards. I really like all three. I also like that they gave more meaning to the parallels, specifically tying different designs and foil colors to different memorabilia pieces.

There are parts of the Dominion program that do look rather plain, and I note a lack of foil on some of the inserts compared to last year (benchmarks, the booklet cards, the all-star patches, and a few others). As great as those concepts are, a flat surface finish just doesn't seal the deal. For a product at this level, I'd like to see every card be visually striking. You wouldn't want to embed a Gordie Howe stick piece on a Score base card. OK, on a stack of about 8 Score base cards. ;)

I'm also concerned with a trend I've noticed in both Prime and Dominion -- some of the set names aren't printed anywhere on the card fronts (and in some cases, not even on the card backs). The jerseys look like base cards without a description, and would you know the name of this set? Supposedly this set is called All-Star Skills Complete Sweaters. No, this isn't a widespread problem, but it does make it tough to figure out which card is which, when there's a whole bunch of (very nice, but) similar sets in the product.

The memorabilia program in Dominion is a step ahead of The Cup. Frankly, I think The Cup is a little bit stale, as an overall brand. It's been nearly the exact same insert sets and parallel schemes for years now. I don't mind that Dominion uses some of the same basic structure as The Cup, as long as Panini's willing to keep and improve upon the unique elements. That's what sets the two products apart, and the continued evolution will certainly be worth watching.

As usual, another objective, detailed and enjoyable post, Andy.

With respect to the bolded paragraph above, this becomes even more important as collectors pursue cards from the same set each year. Like Kol is doing with Cup Signature Patches. These collecting endeavors are that much more rewarding when the internal consistency of the accumulation is obvious. At least for me it is. By the cards being mute on their set's name, collectors will make up their own which just causes confusion.

For lack of anything written on the cards, I call the Signature Patches that are /60, "Signature Patches". Sounds familiar.

And the All-Star Skills complete sweaters - I'll call them "Foundations".

Overall I am loving Dominion this year and these negatives although bothersome, are not even close to discouraging me from cracking this stuff. Even without names, those Signature Patches are whispering to me to buy lots of them, lol.
 
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I am very impressed with what I see from Dominion this year, much more so than 2010-11 Dominion. One of the big things I felt was missing from last years product was good hard-signed patch sets that featured a mix of stars and retired players. I found last year that the product was too rookie-centric and while the Peerless Patches were nice and featured stars and veterans they weren't autographed.

I thought that to compete with The Cup Panini had to come out with their answer to the Limited Logos/Signature Patch sets and they have definitely done that in 2011-12. Having lower print runs on those sets--40 or less for Peerless Patches and 60 or less for Autographed Patches--makes the cards more collectible I think too. The Cup Signature Patch print run of 75 is too high in my opinion, I would rather see a lower print run and better patch selection as a result and I believe Panini has found a better balance than UD has.

Seeing signed Peerless Patch cards and Autograph Patches are a major plus for me and the only thing keeping me from going nuts and buying up a bunch of them is my budget. I must say I like Dominion better than The Cup this year and if Panini keeps up this pace and improves upon Dominion more and more the next few years it will leave The Cup in it's dust.
 
to me the designs look a lot alike whether the rookies, horizontal patch/autos, peerless patches or fight straps and the various others, it just looks all the same. Scanning eBay I can usually tell what set a card is from just by quickly looking at the pics. With Dominion I have to scrutinize to see which set it's from.
 
I've been a huge mark for The Cup ever since its inception. I absolutely despised Dominion last year.

Imagine my surprise when Dominion was not only better, but significantly better than The Cup this year.

Granted, you can still pull higher dollar cards out of The Cup because of names like Gretzky, Orr, Messier, etc. But from an overall perspective, Dominion offers far better bang for the collector's buck than The Cup.

As mentioned above, Dominion's memorabilia program is superior to The Cup's. Panini's design department outdid themselves compared to last year's Dominion designs. The average box break offers FAR more value than the average Cup break this year. And ultimately, collectors seem to be far more impressed by Dominion, especially considering it is retailing for $175-225 less than The Cup at this point.

I hate to say it but (for this season's hockey products, at least), the king has been dethroned. UD has some work to do if they want to take back the crown next year...
 
For me, Dominion this year were very well made ..... nice classy designs

but it doesnt "wow" me as much as Prime did


I still think prime is a better crack just because of the cool mem inserts you can pull in there, even though i am rookie guy
 
Dominion being significantly cheaper is a major plus versus The Cup, and Dominion has a lot cooler patches. Prime and Dominion have been great products this year, better than any other UD product.
 

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