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From the folks over at tsn.ca

I watched this last night on Coaches Corner!

Don did a comparison with what abuse Mario had to endure. Like he mentioned, Sid is only a kid and should have someone on the team that would instill a little bit of respect from the opposing teams!

Thanks for dropping in! :D

Brian
 
I don't understand what Andre Roy thinks his job is with the Penguins if it isn't to thump a few guys. They showed him chatting with kovalchuk during warmups, but it sure would have been more useful if he'd have rocked him during the game.
 
Brian, thanks for the link. That's funny, another "interesting" opinion from Mr. Cherry :rolleyes:

December, 2003: Calls top prospect Crosby a "hot dog" for scoring a creative goal while his team had a big lead. Crosby's father demands an apology. None forthcoming.

November, 2003: Slams award-winning minor hockey ads mocking overzealous hockey parents as "sickening" and labels their creators "left-wing kooks in Vancouver."

March, 2003: Angers CBC TV vice-president Harold Redekopp, who calls a Coach's Corner rant on Canada's decision to sit out the war in Iraq as "uninformed and irrelevant." The CBC then pulls the commentary from its Web site. Cherry further antagonizes his employers by telling a U.S. radio host, "You have to realize the CBC is government-owned."

March, 2002: Sparks outrage in the immigrant community after his comment on two Russian athletes testing positive for drugs at the Salt Lake Olympics: "I've been trying to tell you people for so long about the Russians, what kind of people they are, and you just love them in Canada with your multiculturalism. They're quitters and evidently they take a lot of drugs, too."

April, 1998: Prompts Bell Canada in Quebec to pull its ads on Coach's Corner after Cherry calls Quebecers "whiners" and criticizes Olympic skier Jean-Luc Brassard, calling the medalist "that French guy."

April, 1995: Debates University of Guelph professor Ric Knowles on radio after the academic accuses Cherry of exploiting and promoting "dangerous traits such as misogyny, homophobia and xenophobia, all in the name of Canadian patriotism."

March, 1995: Calls Vancouver star Pavel Bure "a little weasel," prompting coach Pat Quinn to demand equal time on television. Asked to comment, Bure replies, "Would you comment on the clowns in the circus?"

February, 1994: Calls Glen Sather "a two-faced hypocrite" after the Edmonton GM says hockey fights shouldn't be shown on TV and calls for the CBC to muzzle Cherry.

May, 1993: Sparks Quebec MP Vincent Della Noce to call for the House of Commons to censure Cherry for "taking a malicious pleasure in ridiculing francophones by saying the people of Sault Ste. Marie speak the good language."

February, 1989: Winnipeg Jets officials demand an apology, claiming Cherry mocked the hiring of Finnish coach Alpo Suhonen: "Alpo? That's dog food isn't it?" No apology.
 
Nick2317 said:
yea imagine that ....I wish someone woulda broken Kovalchuks arm
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Maybe Croz coulda done something about it if he wasn't exiled to the penalty box. ;)
For me, the last two games have shown that yes, Sid plays with alot of emotion, but he's still only a kid playing a man's game. Skill-wise, he's on par with a lot of the stars in the league, but he's got to smarten up and know when to sit down and shut up. Hopefully that will come with time. If he doesn't grow up, I can see Sid's star losing alot of its shine, if it hasn't already.
 
leafschik1967 said:
I don't understand what Andre Roy thinks his job is with the Penguins if it isn't to thump a few guys. They showed him chatting with kovalchuk during warmups, but it sure would have been more useful if he'd have rocked him during the game.
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don't forget lyle odelein and brooks orpik, 2 other tough guys that could be lending a hand.
 
WesM44 said:
Maybe Croz coulda done something about it if he wasn't exiled to the penalty box. ;)
For me, the last two games have shown that yes, Sid plays with alot of emotion, but he's still only a kid playing a man's game. Skill-wise, he's on par with a lot of the stars in the league, but he's got to smarten up and know when to sit down and shut up. Hopefully that will come with time. If he doesn't grow up, I can see Sid's star losing alot of its shine, if it hasn't already.
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He's a kid playing a mans game. If anything he has gained respect from me, his teammates on the other hand have lost it. I remember playing hockey and if someone took a cheap shot at one of our stars we let them know that wasn't ok. Not just the goons but whoever was closest. The last two games have been just crazy wrong!
 
I laughed at the someone should breeak his arm comment after the showed Kovy pointing to the pen box.

Get protection for Crosby....from Kovalchuk? Please my mom could take Kovalchuk.
 
He's 18, and sadly for Sid, his teammates hung him out to dry while
Kovalchuk danced all over the pens in general, and Sid in particular.




Time to fess up Chris - how much bribe money did you send Andre Roy?
 
I think this whole situation has been blown out of proportion. First of all, I think hockey needs more instances like this. Gives the game more emotion and excitment. Secondly, everyone is making it out like Kovalchuk is this big goon. He is not a goon, he is a skilled forward just showing some aggressivness. Its not like he is Brashear trying to drop gloves with Sid. Thirdly, if it wasnt Crosby this whole thing would be a non-issue.
 
nickscards16 said:
I think this whole situation has been blown out of proportion. First of all, I think hockey needs more instances like this. Gives the game more emotion and excitment. Secondly, everyone is making it out like Kovalchuk is this big goon. He is not a goon, he is a skilled forward just showing some aggressivness. Its not like he is Brashear trying to drop gloves with Sid. Thirdly, if it wasnt Crosby this whole thing would be a non-issue.
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I would have to agree. Wasn't this whole started by a hit Crosby gave out that Kovalchuk didn't really like, so he stuck up for his teammate. Neither of these two guys is gonna back down from each other, and that made the 2 game series very exciting to watch. Good old fashioned star rivalries are great, if Kovalchuk wants to point at Crosby in the box after he rips a lightning shot past the netminder for a score, so be it....and if Crosby wants to chirp at him with some less than stellar words....so be it. The game is played with passion and intensity and this is what I saw from those two, passion and intensity. Kind of surprised me a bit on Kovalchuk's part to be honest. I have always thought he was a great player, but didn't realize he played with that kind of emotion and passion.

If this score ever needs to be settled via some sort of fight, then let the two of them go at it. It wasn't like Kovalchuk was taking cheap shots at Crosby for the two games, so why should a goon come in and defend him at that point, no need for it.
 
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This isn't the first time that it has come up that Crosby has been in a situation that maybe called for some intervention by his teammates. He could probably handle Kovalchuk my himself. When they were playing the Flyers, and Hatcher was harassing him, that also called for some action. I don't think anyone in the Pens organization wants Crosby going a few rounds with Hatcher. And since alot of nights he looks like the only one whose feet are moving out there, he shouldn't have to be in a situation where he busts his hand on someone's helmet.
 
Perhaps I'm misremembering, but didn't Crosby call out his teammates recently for not giving their best effort? If that's the case, I would not be surprised if they made like the NYPD hangin' Serpico out to dry. Wanna call us out for bein' slackers? Fine. Good luck with the roughhousing.
 
My reply was simply to the situation at hand, which is with him and Kovalchuk. Certainly if the tougher guys in the league are taking liberties with him, then someone needs to step in like McSorley for Gretzky...but in this case I don't think that is called for, and again, it isn't like the Thrashers were slapping him all over the ice, as a matter of fact, he is the one with the 3 slashing penalties on the weekend.

I agree with Steve, call out your teammates and do as much yapping as Crosby does, and maybe they don't so much want to come to your aid. As with any freshman in any situation, no matter who you are, you can't come in and think you are the top dog right away, there is an unwritten rule of earning the respect first.
 
If they are being called out by an 18-year old, maybe they need to look at their own games a bit more closely?

And when I was discussing this at work this morning, the question came up - How come Kovalchuk wasn't called for unsportsmanlike conduct for taunting Crosby like that?
 
Now that IS an interesting question. Perhaps "Hey Cros, we're gonna kick your butts." is considered normal banter.
 
leafschik1967 said:
If they are being called out by an 18-year old, maybe they need to look at their own games a bit more closely?

And when I was discussing this at work this morning, the question came up - How come Kovalchuk wasn't called for unsportsmanlike conduct for taunting Crosby like that?
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Same reason Crosby didn't get called for tossing the F-bomb at Kovalchuk afterwards. Same reason Ovechkin scores a goal and does his little think or when Jagr did the salute....it is part of rivalries and a natural part of competition.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing Sid here. I happen to think the kid has some tremendous talent and is pretty level headed for all the hype that is surrounding him. But when you are 18 years old and yap all night long, others that are competitive will find ways to get back at you, it is just how it is. Right or wrong, it makes it more exciting if you ask me, as long as things are kept from physical harm. How many more people do you think tuned in to Saturdays game because of that point by Kovalchuk? Lots, I know I had friends who wanted to come over and see it, and they never watch hockey.

I just really think the entire game was blown out of proportion....everything done by each side. Does anyone remember the days when you didn't have a goon to stick up for you, it was almost a right of passage to come into the league and have to drop the gloves once to earn respect, not saying that should be done, but I also don't think we need to coddle the players either as long as things aren't being taken to a level out of control, which I didn't think this instance was. I honestly would like to see more player rivalries like that, I found it funny as heck when Kovalchuk pointed at Sid, as if to say, "hey rook....take a stupid penalty and more times than not I might just light your boys up." I would have found it just as funny had Crosby done it to Kovalchuk.
 

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