HI feedback question/rant/opinions

warsawknuckles

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hey folks... just have something to get off my chest... also wanting some opinions. to me, a deal on HI isn't completed until both parties receive feedback. now i know that feedback isn't so important to some folks on here, but it is to me for some reason. and i really can't stand folks on here, or on ebay for that matter, that have the old "leave feedback for me and i will leave it for you" attitude. if that was the case and everyone had that attitude, no one would leave feedback AT ALL because no one would step up and leave it first.

anyway, i always leave feedback once the other person's end is fulfilled. if i am the seller, i will leave feedback once the payment is received. same for trades, once it comes in the mail and everything is ok, feedback is left. and i know that some folks on here are waaaaayyyyy too busy with other stuff to do anything beyond poking their heads in periodically, but i tend to send a polite reminder PM about feedback once i know that the item has been delivered (usually stateside via D/C). hell, i even had a jackwagon member on here not leave me feedback, and when i sent the reminder PM, he sent me a PM back, telling me that "things were kinda messed up from the get-go" and that if he left me feedback, it would probably be a neutral or negative, and that if i bugged him anymore that he would "tell Bruce" and have me suspended (yeah, okeeee...). funny thing is that this member didn't have a gripe at all about the sale, just about me requesting feedback.

now, my situation is that a sale was completed with a stateside member on here, who also happens to run a Beckett storefront. sure, i bet this person is busy with that business, and may even run a brick and mortar store too, i don't know... but the card was delivered over a week ago and this member has been signed on here several times since. no feedback... so i sent the friendly reminder PM, to no avail.

do i send another PM, and if no response, just blow it off? because when i sold this card (a Matt Duchene SPA future watch auto for $63 dlvd, which i am sure this member simply got it so it could be flipped for a profit), he sure had the time to PM me, haggling over the price, and setting up the transaction. just now that the transaction is completed, no reply...
 
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I still have outstanding trades where people have confirmed they received their end and then never left feedback (we are talking 9+ months ago) nothing you can do...
 
Some members just show a complete lack of respect. I think that it should be mandatory to leave feedback, I don't know how that would, or even could, be enforced. If only more members were like you and left feedback when their end of a deal was completed...novel concept...I know.

I don't know what you should, but I hope the other member steps up and fulfills this menial, yet meaningful task.
 
I am experiencing the same thing. A few deals I've completed and left feedback for and I've not received feedback from my trade or sale partners.
I think if anyone does not leave feedback when it has been left for them, they should have that feedback removed from their file and their score, maybe even go so far as to add a negative to their score pointing out that they didn't leave feedback.
Get a few negatives for not leaving feedback and I'll bet people start fulfilling their part of the trade agreement by leaving feedback always.
Cheers, Dan V.
 
i have some folks that i did deals with where the language barrier was an issue... not such a big deal (one such member has something like 50 feedbacks received but only 1 left, LOL), but... this is a fellow American. no language barrier there, i wouldn't imagine.


i wonder if we could start reporting these folks to transaction moderators? one would think that since the feedback deal is on here, it's important to the ppl who run the site and to the community, and that they may intervene...
 
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warsawknuckles said:
i have some folks that i did deals with where the language barrier was an issue... not such a big deal (one such member has something like 50 feedbacks received but onlyl 1 left, LOL), but... this is a fellow American. no language barrier there, i wouldn't imagine.
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That kind of action is what I'm talking about. How would he react if all his feedback was remove, except for 1 and then hit with 49 negative points for not leaving feedback.
 
I think that if feedback is that important to you (and judging by your original post - it is), then I think an additional PM would be the right thing to do.

I think trying to be open with the communication as opposed to sending a harsh or snarky pm would eventually get you the results you are looking for.

Hopefully there is a good reason as to why the other person isn't responding.

I've come to realize some people just don't put the same emphasis on feedback or don't have the same outlook with feedback. It used to bother me, but not so much anymore.

If you're a good trader/seller/buyer.....people will know. Regardless of feedback.
 
send another pm, definitely, then one every few days until they get annoyed... seriously

i know i'm forgetful, and i've got so much crap going on that i forget feedbacks sometimes, here/there/ebay etc... and i'm grateful for members poking me when i forget

with that said, i agree with you, some would call it anal, but i understand your stance on feedback, totally.

like i said, consistent pms :)
 
I'd send them another PM too. Being new to this site, I'm impressed with how many things are in place to prevent scammers and such, such as new members must send first, the third party selling thing, and, hell, I can't even post pictures until I have 15 posts. Seems it wouldn't be too hard to have a feedback reminder or something in place. Being new, I want to get my feedback high so people know they can trust me as a trader/seller/buyer. This is tough to do if people are slow to leave feedback. Thankfully everyone I've dealt with so far has been good about it.
 
Inappropriate, but I can't say I fault the sentiment.

I'd like to see a system in place where no feedback counts unless BOTH parties have left it.
 
If their end is successful, they deserve the good feedback...unfortunately the guys are right. Not everyone has the same integrity. I just cross them off my trade list...feedback is important to me...but 2 I'm the scheme of 100 trades is minuscule
 
quincy said:
Inappropriate, but I can't say I fault the sentiment.

I'd like to see a system in place where no feedback counts unless BOTH parties have left it.
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Or, as much a pain as it would be for the mod staff, have a situation where, unless both parties have commented on receipt in both the thread and feedback, the mod staff would be a guiding force in getting both parties to leave feedback/update the thread.

That seems like the best course of action at the moment, at least to me.
 
feedback for members with 200-300 feedbacks received may not be such a big deal but to new members trying to get rid of the dredded 'must send first' under their name it is very important. took me over a year to get enough feedbacks not because i didn't have enough trades, just not enough feedback. i take a lot of pride in my feedback i think it tells your fellow traders that you are a stand-up guy/gal and you can be trusted. this is also a pet peeve of mine.
 
parco10 said:
feedback for members with 200-300 feedbacks received may not be such a big deal but to new members trying to get rid of the dredded 'must send first' under their name it is very important. took me over a year to get enough feedbacks not because i didn't have enough trades, just not enough feedback. i take a lot of pride in my feedback i think it tells your fellow traders that you are a stand-up guy/gal and you can be trusted. this is also a pet peeve of mine.
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i have 185 unique and 256 total. still a big deal to me.
 
JohnnyDrama said:
Or, as much a pain as it would be for the mod staff, have a situation where, unless both parties have commented on receipt in both the thread and feedback, the mod staff would be a guiding force in getting both parties to leave feedback/update the thread.

That seems like the best course of action at the moment, at least to me.
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Hm. Seems to me that I haven't sufficiently reinforced the "lazier than a housecat" message.
 
also would like to see an Ebay style rating system implemented as well

can include categories such as Communication, quick delivery (keeping in mind cross border takes longer), how well items are packaged
 
quincy said:
Hm. Seems to me that I haven't sufficiently reinforced the "lazier than a housecat" message.
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IDK about all that monitoring, but i have seen a transaction mod do a "bump for a reply" on a transaction thread that the second party hadn't responded to. i wonder if the transaction mods would like to give their opinions on this subject? since HI is more of a community than a website, i know that the feedback is important to all (well, most anyways... see OP).

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just sent a pm to the 2 transaction mods, asking them to chime in with their thoughts.
 
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I don't think additional moderation to the system is needed. I feel extremely comfortable trading on these boards and say for one or two hiccups, I've had no problems.

I think continuous reminders via pm would be the way to go. It's not going to happen with many trades and it will let the other party know that you would appreciate it.
 

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