Honest Review of MNT Grading

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Hey folks!

I recently sent my Connor McDavid Young Guns rookie into MNT Grading and received it back today. I wanted to share some thoughts and photos since there isn't a lot of information out there on MNT being as they're still only a few years on the market.

Before I begin, I know.. I know.. BGS/PSA/SGC are the "big three" of grading and the market kings when it comes to value and overall hobby acceptance. If you are looking at it from an investment level or want to get top dollar for your slabs then you still need to go with one of those three first. The market, especially the "old guard" around the hobby, is pretty set in it's ways and needs to see a pretty huge sample size of quality before accepting a new grader. I totally understand that and as a newer player MNT still needs to earn that reputation.

With that said, in this particular case I chose to send my McDavid YG in for a couple of reasons. First reason being this is my own pack-pulled card and I have absolutely no intention of selling it so resale and "top dollar" are not a big concern for me. Second reason is I knew where the flaws were on this card and wanted to use it as a test run of sorts to see how tough MNT would be on it. More on that later.

On with the review! I'll break it down into a few different sections and touch on one aspect at a time. Here is the card itself in it's new slab:


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THE SLAB

The slab itself is actually quite impressive. I will make my comparisons to the BGS counterpart since they are the most similar to each other.

The height and width dimensions are identical and they actually stack on top of each other perfectly. The only difference is the MNT slab is a touch thinner than the BGS slab:


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The plastic itself on the MNT slab feels to be much better quality than the BGS slab. The edges on the BGS slab feel sharper and the plastic can feel brittle and chip or scratch easily. MNT's holder has smoother edges and a smoother kind of texture to it. I'm not going to try and scratch it lol but guessing by the feel of it I believe it would be at least a bit more resistant to scratching if you prefer to keep them naked and sleeveless. It's also just as clear if not a bit clearer than BGS:


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THE INNER SLEEVE

This is one area that could use a little improvement. From what I gather MNT didn't offer the inner sleeve at first and based on customer feedback later introduced it because some cards could move around within the "bumpers". The slab with the bumpers however wasn't originally designed to integrate well with a sleeve. I'll try my best to put this into words before showing the photo example.

The card is sleeved and placed in the holder, but it obviously can't nest into the recessed area inside the bumpers because the sleeve is too big. So what happens is the outside edges of the sleeve rest on top of the bumpers which creates the sort of seal that holds it in place, and the card sort of floats over the recessed area pressed gently against the front side of the holder rather than being down close to the middle of the slab. A photo to show what I mean:


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The card isn't being pinched or anything obviously, and the sleeve is definitely doing it's job securing the card in place. The card won't move around inside the holder or the sleeve if you shake it around. The sleeve can also end up tilted or off-centered inside the holder even though the card itself frames perfectly within the borders of the bumpers. Functionally it serves the purpose just fine but a more integrated design would look and work better. The BGS slabs really nail the inner sleeve perfectly in my opinion, there are no bumpers inside the holder at all, just a large square recessed area that the card and sleeve rest perfectly inside of. Maybe MNT will adjust this at some point and I may send some feedback to them regarding it.


THE GRADE


Here is a closer look at the label front and back:


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The card received a 9.5 Gem Mint score with a 9.0 for edges and a 9.5 for everything else. Now I mentioned earlier that I sent this card as a test run to see how hard they wouldn't be on the flaws I knew were there. The only area of concern was this bottom right corner:


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As you can see from the corner up to around Connor's stick there is a bit of a rough, flakey edge. I expected that corner to be hit hard with a 9.0 at most if not an 8.5 corner score. The overall edge score was dinged instead to a 9.0. The rest of the corners and edges are razor sharp save for that small 3/4 inch or so section.

Honestly I expected the card to come back with a 9.0 Mint score at best, with no higher than a 9.0 on both edges and corners. Either I was too hard on it or maybe MNT was a little lenient on it. I looked up the pop report for this card and out of the 135 or so McDavid YG's they've graded around 45 have come back a 9.0 Mint so they're certainly not afraid to hand out 9's if they feel it's warranted. Maybe I was too hard on my own assessment since I'm not a pro grader by any stretch. All I wanted to see was a fair and accurate grade and I think MNT was a bit generous with this one. My gut tells me BGS probably would have 9'd it with an 8.5 corners and 9 edges.


THE SERVICE


Zero complaints from a service standpoint. I paid for the 6-Day service which was $26 CDN (for 10 or fewer cards) and they only had the card in hand for a few days before it was turned around and mailed back. They were responsive to emails and quick to get the card out. I obviously don't know how busy they are but I get the impression you don't have to worry about backlogs so I think you could get your card turned around in less than the stated 6-Day service level so at this time I wouldn't bother paying the extra few bucks for the 2-Day service.


THE VERDICT


Overall MNT seems to provide a quality product and quick service. The slab is top notch quality (though the inner sleeve needs a bit of improvement) and the service is lightning quick. I expected a bit of a tougher grade but maybe this was MNT being a touch generous, or maybe I was just too hard on the card myself, or a bit of both.

Would I use them again? Yes, I would. For now though, only for my PC cards. Again, if you're interested in the resale and whatnot MNT still has more work to do to continue building a reputation and gain acceptance on the market so their market premiums can grow.

However they will never get to that level and gain that experience if people don't use their services and give them the chance to earn it. I really want to see a Canadian grader succeed and be a viable and respected player in the market so I will probably send in a couple more PC cards and keep supporting them where I can. If you're also in Canada and want to get some of your PC cards graded and slabbed I would definitely recommend giving MNT a shot and see what you think.

Thanks for reading!
 
Glad to see you gave them a try. I think their cases and service were amazing. For the cost and the minimal wait time I am happy to give them more business.

I had some cards graded and did see a good bump in resale. I am sure not to the levels of PSA or BGS but still I didn’t have to wait months to get them or deal with customs.

Great review.
 
Thanks for the review. Did the $26 include return shipping? I do like the look of their holders. I agree that they may have been a little lenient on your grade. It looks more like a 9 to me too. It is great to hear that you enjoyed the experience and the turnaround time was excellent. I would also love to see a recognized Canadian competitor for grading.
 
Glad to see you gave them a try. I think their cases and service were amazing. For the cost and the minimal wait time I am happy to give them more business.

I had some cards graded and did see a good bump in resale. I am sure not to the levels of PSA or BGS but still I didn’t have to wait months to get them or deal with customs.

Great review.

Yes I've seen some good premiums on their cards for sure, I was mostly speaking to the ''top dollar'' crowd as the segment that tends to do a lot of grading does a lot of flipping as well and BGS/PSA still gets the most resale. I gained some value on my McDavid but obviously not at the premium of the other guys. Hopefully the gap will close over time as MNT gets more traction.

Definitely far cheaper than sending to BGS or PSA and tying up your cards in the US for months at a time. My total order cost (not counting my shipping to them) came to $64 CDN. That's fees, fully insured return shipping, and taxes. Shipping to and from was slow as hell but that wasn't their fault. Actual turnaround like I said was like three days total.
 
Thank-you for this great review. I like a lot of what I see with the company and I hope they can build on it. I have a stack of cards waiting to get graded that I would send out in a heartbeat to a Canadian company if the value was there.
 
I was one of the first in line to tell them needed to start adding sleeves to the cards...unfortunately, this backfired. For whatever reason, maybe humidity?, a huge number of cards theyve graded and used sleeves, the sleeves end up becoming rippled. It looks horrible and has me questioning the quality of the seal of the case. Until thats fixed I wont be using them.
 
I was one of the first in line to tell them needed to start adding sleeves to the cards...unfortunately, this backfired. For whatever reason, maybe humidity?, a huge number of cards theyve graded and used sleeves, the sleeves end up becoming rippled. It looks horrible and has me questioning the quality of the seal of the case. Until thats fixed I wont be using them.

The front side of the sleeve looks a bit rippled but the back side is tight. I just think it has to do with the way the sleeve is pinched by the bumpers inside, it's putting pressure on it in a certain way to cause the ripples on one side but also stretching the other side a bit. Can't have anything to do with humidity as mine has probably only been in the slab for a week or so.

That's why I feel the inside of the slab needs to be tweaked so the sleeve sits inside a recessed area with no bumpers. Just like the BGS design which is ideal.
 
I've had a couple cards graded with MNT and I highly recommend as well. It may not be widely known in the hobby, but as OP said if it's a PC item it doesn't really matter.
 
Thanks for doing this, I think a lot of people have been curious and your review answered a lot of questions people might have!
 
Thanks for the review. I’ve been intrigued by them and may just send in a few PC Cards now. I gave a few cards to my LCS last week to send to Beckett and they are saying 4-6 months. That’s a long time to wait lol. I’d definitely prefer the fast turn around time. And Would be nice to to support a Canadian company and hopefully they can build a solid reputation.
 
Thx for review as others have said..
just so you know as soon as I saw this thread I looked at the pictures of the card before I read any further and I agreed on that lower right corner.
Should look great in your collection.
 
Not sure about the specific card, but MNT says right on their website that they grade but they don't authenticate at this time.
 
That's a tiny bit insane, no?

Newer company, less experience. I can see not wanting to take on that liability. Maybe they plan to do it in the future who knows.

Anything vintage, super high dollar, or often faked needs to go to one of the big guys regardless. And if I'm buying any of that stuff on the secondary market it's going to be in a PSA/BGS holder. SGC is rock solid as well I just don't care for the holders as a personal preference.

I'm not handing out any coolaid here, just test running a few PC cards to see what there is to like and not like. I know MNT is probably a small operation with maybe a few people on staff and certainly a lot less experience than the established players who have been doing this for 20 years. They've got an uphill battle to say the least but seem to be trying hard so we'll see where it goes over the long term.

The more informative this thread is the better so if anybody has more to add good or bad let's hear it :beer:
 
Hard to be 100% but from what I can see in the scan I would say that Roy is a fake. No black dot on the border above the made on the OPC versions is a good indicator it is fake.

I've never not seen a real Roy OPC RC without the black dot however PWCC and Probstein both have recently sold PSA 10 copies without the dot. There was another non-consigner selling a similar graded copy without the dot. Not sure if they're fake, altered or sheet cut (i think even uncut sheets had the dot?), but these non-dot copies are becoming a lot more common now and I would avoid them regardless.

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