Mcdavid values vulnerable?

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After seeing what happened this playoffs, is it just me that thinks that a repeat of this year will send McDavid values plummeting?

One year...okay. If it happens again it's a trend. Three times and it's a reputation for choking.

I wouldn't want my life savings in Mcdavid cards going in to next years playoffs.

Anyone agree?
 
Two seasons does not a career make. McDavid has LOTS of time to win his titles, and he will at some point.

The Pens failed to make it to the finals or make any significant waves in the playoffs from 2009-2016, now they have back-to-backs. Anybody still calling them chokers? This is an age of parity and the greatest of players aren't going to win right away just because they're great. It could take McDavid 15+ years to win for all we know, same for Matthews and my Leafs. Or they could next year. Anything can happen.

And McDavid is high right now because so many folks missed the Crosby train ten years ago that they aren't taking that chance again. I'm one of them. When I see Crosby's YG prices going up and up I think back to how much UD1 I left on retail shelves and whatnot back in 2005-06 and I kick myself. I didn't make that mistake with McDavid. Get a bunch of collectors looking at it that way and the market takes off.
 
The question I have is who actually thinks McDavid choked? He was really good, and great at points, in this years playoffs.
 
This is the first time I've heard it suggested that he choked this year. Are you asking is he going to be the next Ovechkin and as a result see his card prices go down? Highly, highly doubt it.
 
It sounds like you're guaranteeing an Oilers cup with Mcdavid.

I love the Oilers and Mc david is exciting to watch. But I can't ignore what I just saw in the playoffs.

To summarize:
9 pts in 13 games
5 goals including an empty net. No game winners or tying.
Against Anaheim, 3 goals all in Oiler losses.
Faceoffs 35.8%
Time on ice 22.25 mins
Hits: 15 in 13 games

My thinking is that another mediocre playoffs like this year and Mcdavid card values won't be so enthusiastic.

As far as an Oilers cup with Mcdavid? As a realist I'd bet against it. Too many obstacles for Canadian teams.
 
I'm not guaranteeing anything. I'm saying that for the first two seasons after his rookie year, Crosby values were DOWN across the board. And now he's on pace for a HOF career.

So what if McDavid had a weak first showing in the playoffs? He gets experience, he learns, and he makes more of the next opportunity.
 
It sounds like you're guaranteeing an Oilers cup with Mcdavid.

I love the Oilers and Mc david is exciting to watch. But I can't ignore what I just saw in the playoffs.

To summarize:
9 pts in 13 games
5 goals including an empty net. No game winners or tying.
Against Anaheim, 3 goals all in Oiler losses.
Faceoffs 35.8%
Time on ice 22.25 mins
Hits: 15 in 13 games

My thinking is that another mediocre playoffs like this year and Mcdavid card values won't be so enthusiastic.

As far as an Oilers cup with Mcdavid? As a realist I'd bet against it. Too many obstacles for Canadian teams.

I think you were expecting way too much from a second year player on a team that never even tasted playoff hockey in a decade prior. They weren't supposed to get as far as they did.
 
I think you were expecting way too much from a second year player on a team that never even tasted playoff hockey in a decade prior. They weren't supposed to get as far as they did.

Draisaitl was 2nd year player on the same team. Should I post the comparables? Drai scored big goals and factored in Oiler wins. Mcdavid was not a factor.
 
This is not a good thread.

By your logic, Carey Price cards should all be super "vulnerable" since the Habs choked in the first round of the playoffs this year and the dumb goalie didn't make enough saves in overtime.
 
Yes, because clearly he's already hit his prime and it's all downhill from here.

It took Gretzky a few years to win a Cup too.

Disgruntled Oilers fan who missed getting Gretzky RC, in 1983: "The Great One? More like Can't Win the Big One!"
 
Draisaitl was 2nd year player on the same team. Should I post the comparables? Drai scored big goals and factored in Oiler wins. Mcdavid was not a factor.

So because of this ONE playoff run you have now established that Draisaitl is better and McDavid is a choker? Talk about blowing a small sample size (one season) way out of proportion.

McDavid, Draisaitl, and the Oilers will all be just fine. Nobody in the hockey world is concerned about the direction of the team or how good McDavid/Draisaitl are, I'm not sure why all this panic is necessary after these Oilers basically just dipped their toes in the playoff water for the first time.
 
Vulnerable? Sure, but my primary concern would be injuries, not stats from a small sample size of one playoff run.

With all due respect to solid guys like Roman Hamrlik, looking at the last 3 guys who were heralded as once in a generation first overall picks, Lemieux had serious back problems and a bout with Hodgkin's disease... Lindros' career ended early due to concussions... and Crosby at one point looked like he might follow Lindros with his own concussion issues. Beyond them Stamkos has had serious leg injuries, Bryan Berard nearly lost an eye, Rick DiPietro couldn't stay healthy wearing full body armour while lying down in a padded safe room.

McJesus has already had a broken collar bone... hopefully that's it and he goes on to enjoy a healthy career so we can enjoy watching his talent - I'd be concerned that his collar bone injury came when he was skating all-out, one of his great weapons is his speed, but at that speed the abilities to avoid catastrophic collisions is hard... will he have another similar injury - or change his playing style becoming a bit more gun shy after a bad spill into the boards? I really hope not but it's always a concern.
 
Sorry man, Oilers fans are spoiled. Never mind that they've had the First Pick more times than they have deserved, they've had the greatest player in history leading your team to multiple Stanley Cups and they've been looking for his replacement ever since. Now you have McDavid and ONE playoff performance and he's already being judged. Be happy that the Oilers made it to the playoffs. They're an unbalanced team. They didn't stack well against most other teams which is why they got pantsed by Anaheim (whom they went SEVEN games with no less!)

The only thing that can hold back McDavid's card values is a MASSIVE choke moving forward (read: Mike Comrie) or overproduction of his YG. Dude's about to win the Hart Trophy...those are pretty damn good first steps. He should have been Calder winner too, if it wasn't for his broken collar bone.

Go easy on the kid. He's just starting out.
 
After seeing what happened this playoffs, is it just me that thinks that a repeat of this year will send McDavid values plummeting?

One year...okay. If it happens again it's a trend. Three times and it's a reputation for choking.

I wouldn't want my life savings in Mcdavid cards going in to next years playoffs.

Anyone agree?

Is this a serious question? Lol
 
If you have an McDavids you want to unload feel free to hit me up! I'll gladly weather the storm :)
 
The question I have is who actually thinks McDavid choked? He was really good, and great at points, in this years playoffs.

I don't think he choked at all. I think he and the Oilers played very well in the Playoffs, especially since it was their first time in the post season since 2006. What the Oilers did this year, that's not choking, that's just gaining experience for this group.

It's quite alright to not win your first time through, otherwise, everyone would do it. Winning a Stanley Cup is hard.
 
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