Mega Common Jersey Cards vs. Harder To Pull Better Players

[gigs6027]

So I was thinking with all the scrubs that UD has included in their jersey card sets (hooray for player collectors), and I remembered how hard these were to pull in the first UD set.

So my question to you is, would you rather have the Game Worn Jerseys as they are now which include lesser known players with for arguments sake three to a box. Or would you rather have longer odds say 1 or 2 every three boxes of something like UD Series 1 and 2 but pull at least a "semi-star".

I remember how much crappy wax I busted in 2000 in hopes of pulling a jersey card and never hit one. I kept on buying though. That being said, I'd like the longer odds with better players.

That was long winded. If you're still reading, good on ya!

 

[NickC]

For a collector, longer odds because harder to find = $$$$

But for a kid/teen it better to have crap players because it will get them interested in collecting. They are the future collectors too.

 

[gigs6027]

I agree with that but limit it to MVP, Series 1 and 2 perhaps and Powerplay for the commons. As the price point on the boxes moves up so should the quality of players.

 

[odjickfan]

Personnally, I don't mind no-namers in lower-end products. There are many collectors who build collections of 3rd and 4th liners, and it gives them something to collect. They can collect various swatch variations and all.

 

[GrimUSMC]

id have to say Id rather have the couple per box of local fan favorites, then just the stars in every 3-4 boxes. It gives a variety to collecting.

 

[JohnnyDrama]

I'd be a fan of tiering it. The higher up you go in price point, the less and less scrubs are found and the harder it is to get them. It'll never happen, but it'd be a decent idea.

 

[bigzippy]

Why cant we keep both ideas and have a tiered system? Seems to work well in topps baseball so have a list of players with odds ie;

Tier A Crosby,Ovechkin, Gretzky, 1:288
Tier B Iginla, Malkin, Zetty 1:144
annd work it down to the scrubs

Tier (Z) Satan, Meyer ect 1:12?

 

[jetsman]

Why cant we keep both ideas and have a tiered system? Seems to work well in topps baseball so have a list of players with odds ie;

Tier A Crosby,Ovechkin, Gretzky, 1:288
Tier B Iginla, Malkin, Zetty 1:144
annd work it down to the scrubs

Tier (Z) Satan, Meyer ect 1:12?

That's essentially what Topps does and they seem to be working pretty well with it

 

[FrozenInferno]

I will be honest, when I started seriously collecting about a year ago I was OBSESSED with jersey cards. The first one I pulled was a Marty Turco from a 2007/08 Series 1 retail pack and I was very happy with it. I bought a bunch on eBay and had a large collection of game jersey cards from that year before switching to collecting Gaborik, then finally settling on autographs. Game jersey cards are a great way for new collectors to get started because they are affordable and fun to pull. If I was happy with it, imagine how happy a young kid would be to pull a jersey card. I don't think they should reduce the number of jersey cards (1:12 is a good ratio right now) but a tiered system would definitely bring back some interest in jersey cards when the better players are tougher and tougher to pull.

 

[pathshot]

Why cant we keep both ideas and have a tiered system? Seems to work well in topps baseball so have a list of players with odds ie;

Tier A Crosby,Ovechkin, Gretzky, 1:288
Tier B Iginla, Malkin, Zetty 1:144
annd work it down to the scrubs

Tier (Z) Stefan, Emery, Meyer ect 1:12?

Fixed it for you.

-m.

 

[Don Robertson]

Ok counter point to the tier system....why not reverse the tiers and make the lesser players more difficult to pull than say the Gretzky's and Kids. If they were to do that then you would have more of a return value on the lesser players while the bigger names would still hold their value that they do now. Thus making no jersey card a true common.
For example:
Tier A with long odds: Patrick Stefan, Emery, Satan
and so on UP (rather than down in player quality)
and ending with more marque players on the list of players that fall more frequently (Gretzky, Lemieux, etc)

So what happens then is that lets say you pull Satan and the odds of pulling him are LONG...thus in a set such as UD 1 & 2 where a lot of people attempt the jersey set you would not be so dissappointed to open a box that was "loaded" with a Satan and Biron. Lets say you were not collecting the set and pulled this box that includes Satan and Biron...you would then have a good return value. Whereas the person who pulls Gretzky, Mario, Howe, Orr, etc still is happy because they have a great player's jersey card.

My two cents.

 

[Triple B]

I think the damage has been done. What started out as a FANTASTIC idea has been trounced thoroughly. I would never have imagined $1 jersey card bins.

The tiered system is great for sorting this kind of thing out. Upper Deck SSP's some jersey cards and when they are released, their price is driven by this fact. If they were to stagger the SSP names throughout their products, it might breathe life back into jersey cards.

As for the super high end stuff, I'm still of the mind that there should be NO WAY IN HELL that any collector should fork out $500 for a pack of cards and pull a Joey Huckmeyer jersey. ITG has it right with their stuff...high end product with high end yields. When you buy a $500 pack of ITG cards, the low end cards are still relatively high end.

 

[ctbj]

Agreed, I can understand scrub jersey and auto's in lowend product but when your buying Trilogy at $25 a pack there should be no reason to have scrub players in the product at all unless they are rookies

 

[mrconie]

Don Robertson thats an interesting idea. I dont think UD would have the supply to do that. Then again, they can just have another photoshoot.