Nabokov to NY Islanders?

Just read Bob's last 2 tweets..

Guessing there is something in deal to "discourage" other teams from claiming Nabby on waivers, but will it fly with NHL? Just a guess tho.
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My guess, and it's only that, is DET and Nabokov have a deal they can live with, but remains to be seen whether contract is legal per CBA.

If Detroit does put something in the wording of the contract I can see the league putting the kabosh on that right away. Rules are rules!
 
wingnut888 said:
Just read Bob's last 2 tweets..

Guessing there is something in deal to "discourage" other teams from claiming Nabby on waivers, but will it fly with NHL? Just a guess tho.
23 minutes ago via web .

My guess, and it's only that, is DET and Nabokov have a deal they can live with, but remains to be seen whether contract is legal per CBA.

If Detroit does put something in the wording of the contract I can see the league putting the kabosh on that right away. Rules are rules!
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Saw the same tweets you did - am interested if there is some wording that if he doesn't play X games in Michigan this year, the deal is for $10M, but if he plays X games in Michigan, it's worth $4M (which works out to at this point, what 1.8 or so)

I know that in the NFL you can put "poison pills" like that (or at least you could) in the past - look at Seattle/Minny for examples of that.

Be interesting to see what the wording is, and how the NHL reacts to deal with it before it gets to the Kovalchukian extreme before they finally deal with it.

Kevin
 
kmitchel said:
Saw the same tweets you did - am interested if there is some wording that if he doesn't play X games in Michigan this year, the deal is for $10M, but if he plays X games in Michigan, it's worth $4M (which works out to at this point, what 1.8 or so)

I know that in the NFL you can put "poison pills" like that (or at least you could) in the past - look at Seattle/Minny for examples of that.

Be interesting to see what the wording is, and how the NHL reacts to deal with it before it gets to the Kovalchukian extreme before they finally deal with it.

Kevin
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Hmm, interesting and not sure how the league would deal with it. St. Louis would probably be po'd if it went through also with what just happened to them twice. I read somewhere else it could be some kind of no movement clause which is usually a deterrent to some teams also.
 
wingnut888 said:
Hmm, interesting and not sure how the league would deal with it. St. Louis would probably be po'd if it went through also with what just happened to them twice. I read somewhere else it could be some kind of no movement clause which is usually a deterrent to some teams also.
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That makes more sense - I can't see the poison pill being used, but was wondering if they wanted to try it.

FWIW, 13.20b "A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to another Club until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requested originally and the offer has been refused."

"13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim."

So if he is picked up by a non-Detroit team, he has to go thru waivers again if they try to trade him and perhaps only after they deal with Detroit first.

Very interesting anyways.

Kevin
 
kmitchel said:
That makes more sense - I can't see the poison pill being used, but was wondering if they wanted to try it.

FWIW, 13.20b "A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to another Club until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requested originally and the offer has been refused."

"13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim."

So if he is picked up by a non-Detroit team, he has to go thru waivers again if they try to trade him and perhaps only after they deal with Detroit first.

Very interesting anyways.

Kevin
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It will be interesting to see what happens. I just read another blog (the guy is a nobody so I took it with a grain of salt) where Nabokov has said he would play for no one but the Wings so he wanted that written in the contract in case someone was going to claim him. That sounded too off the wall as far as I was concerned though!
 
There should be an adjustment to this in the new CBA. A team wants to sign him then sign him. Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't he a UFA and signed with a KHL team? They released him and now he has to clear waivers? Different league. Shouldn't apply to a guy who had UFA status but them's the rules.
 
norfolk23 said:
There should be an adjustment to this in the new CBA. A team wants to sign him then sign him. Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't he a UFA and signed with a KHL team? They released him and now he has to clear waivers? Different league. Shouldn't apply to a guy who had UFA status but them's the rules.
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The problem is that a player could sign for the season in the KHL (or any European league) and then be airlifted in near the end of the year by an NHL team.

The Oilers brought in Reijo Ruotsalainen in '87 which is why they changed the rules.
 
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kmitchel said:
The problem is that a player could sign for the season in the KHL (or any European league) and then be airlifted in near the end of the year by an NHL team.

The Oilers brought in Reijo Ruotsalainen in '87 which is why they changed the rules.
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It still shouldn't matter in this case. If there's a Ruotsalainen rule then it's a rule. BUT it's not as if he pulled a Radulov and left the Preds high and dry. I'm pretty sure that if he ever decided to come back to the NHL he still has to play out the rest of his entry level contract. He won't.

As for being airlifted in by any team so what? If he's a UFA then everyone has a shot. Would Bill Guerin have to clear waivers if someone signed him today? I don't know if he signed his retirement papers or not but just using him as an example. Point is he's out there and if ANY team wanted a shot have at it regardless.

Nabokov has been fair game for weeks now and nobody's signed him up to this point probably for fear of waivers. That and he supposedly wants more money than anybody was willing to give him. I understand the notion of dumping a guy or sending him to the minors over salary cap issues. The Jackets are doing it to Commodore. I just think in the instance of a UFA it shouldn't apply.

Now that I typed all that would Jagr apply to this if he wanted to come back?
 
vegaspuck said:
I hear Ottawa needs a decent goaltender that's affordable. I'm just laughing because Philly showed interest this summer, and he turned them down. I'm glad he did. In fact, I'm glad both he and Turco turned down Philly. Look at them now. They were going to pay way more than the $500K salary Nabby will get, and they've been doing fine with Boucher and Bobrovsky.
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I'd be happy if I were Philly also. You would have overpaid for both Turco and Nabokov. I have never been a fan of Nabokov but I'd rather have him in the net than Joey MacDonald if Howard gets hurt. I would be absolutely shocked though if no one picks him up. Though I did just hear that it's a no movement clause so not sure if that will make a difference on a one year deal.
 
Tweets about this

Bob McKenzie - "Nabokov's agent Don Meehan sent a letter to all NHL teams prior to signing saying Nabokov wants to be able to compete as a starter."

"Nabokov has a No Move clause in his contract with DET. Cannot be put on waivers (after tomorrow, which is req'd) without his permission."

Katie Strang (NYI beat reporter) - "Source: #Isles have discussed putting in waiver claim on G Evgeni Nabokov http://tinyurl.com/4d5kuny"
 
nabokov was just singed to detroit for the rest of the year but still can be claimed by other teams ,,,,,sorry didnt see the above post
 


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