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Couldn't help but notice that Douglas Murray of the San Jose sharks has his first NHL licensed cards in 2010-11 Panini Score. He made his debut during the 2005-06 season.

Am I missing something here?
 
Don't think it's likely to happen much anymore, but I do have a few Avs players without official rookie cards. They were all from before the turn of the century.

Jeff Buchanan
Mike Gaul
Yves Sarault (was in 97-98 Score Avs Team Set, but not Score)
Brian White
 
The only eligible player I know since the 03-04 season to not earn a RC is Jon Boutin. He dressed as a backup for one Lightning game but Upper Deck didn't even know about it.

There may still be some hold-overs without RCs from late in the 09-10 season, such as Mark Flood.
 
The current one that confuses me is Trevor Gillies (Islanders). He played 1 game for the Ducks back in 05-06, didn't get a card. Fair enough. His 14 games last year for the Islanders was a lot more than many of the scrubs in Artifacts, Victory, UDS1, Score, Certified, Donruss, etc. He's been a regular this year (played 19 games so far) so I'm not sure why they haven't put him in a set yet.
 
I believe Joe Callahan is also another holdover.

He played 18 or so games for the NYI 2 season ago I believe
He played 1 game for the San Jose Sharks last season
He is now playing for the Florida Panthers, not sure about his lineup status as of now, but I know he's gotten at least ONE game in.

....and still no rookie card.

...on a side note, I know that if a goalie dresses as a backup for a game, it seems he's eligible for a rookie card. Does anyone know where I can get stats for players who've dressed as backups for teams? It seems that all the stats I can pull up online are for players who have at least PLAYED, and not rode pine, for a game.
 
I often wondered if someone would make a card of that kid who worked in the Caps front office (website something or other) and dressed as a backup in an emergency. He was like very tall as I recall.
 
norfolk23 said:
I often wondered if someone would make a card of that kid who worked in the Caps front office (website something or other) and dressed as a backup in an emergency. He was like very tall as I recall.
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that was 6'7" Brett Leonhardt who worked for the Caps website as a photographer. He dressed as an emergency backup for 10 minutes before Semyon Varlamov got there from Hershey.
 
norfolk23 said:
I often wondered if someone would make a card of that kid who worked in the Caps front office (website something or other) and dressed as a backup in an emergency. He was like very tall as I recall.
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Probably has something to do with the fact that he was on a special amateur contract and would not have gotten paid even if he did see action, but I'm not 100% sure.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3765928
 
norfolk23 said:
I often wondered if someone would make a card of that kid who worked in the Caps front office (website something or other) and dressed as a backup in an emergency. He was like very tall as I recall.
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I think that has something to do with the contract he signed. Since it was an emergency contract he didn't qualify for cards or something along those lines.

Edit - too slow lol
 
Amateur contracts don't allow players to have rookie cards produced. I believe it's because amateur contracts don't actually enter the player into the NHLPA.
 
The Great Zo said:
Amateur contracts don't allow players to have rookie cards produced. I believe it's because amateur contracts don't actually enter the player into the NHLPA.
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Well, I just remembered an exception to your rule... David Sloane. Signed an emergency amateur contract and played one game with the Flyers in 08-09. He has a bunch of 09-10 cards.
 
nyrtfleury014 said:
Well, I just remembered an exception to your rule... David Sloane. Signed an emergency amateur contract and played one game with the Flyers in 08-09. He has a bunch of 09-10 cards.
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That's very strange, but you're correct. The only different in Sloane's case is that he was playing professional hockey at the time the NHL amateur tryout was signed, but I can't see how that would impact anything in terms of the "official" rules for who can be included in an NHL set or not.

Why can't the NHL/NHLPA and card companies just be a little more open about how this process works? Sloane's in, Leonhardt's out, Gillies doesn't get a card, and Colborne slips through the cracks. Bizarre.
 
Yeah.


But even if you look at this year's early releases. Neither Kadri nor Schenn should have had cards out before the season started. Last year they each got into those "emergency" call-up situations, thus should not have been eligable for cards to be made.

They've both been in games this year (obviously) so I think most sets past the first few releases would have been fine.

But based on the "rules" they had no more business being included in the early releases than did Torrie Jung (WHL goalie, dressed as an emergency backup for the Oilers).

The Great Zo said:
That's very strange, but you're correct. The only different in Sloane's case is that he was playing professional hockey at the time the NHL amateur tryout was signed, but I can't see how that would impact anything in terms of the "official" rules for who can be included in an NHL set or not.

Why can't the NHL/NHLPA and card companies just be a little more open about how this process works? Sloane's in, Leonhardt's out, Gillies doesn't get a card, and Colborne slips through the cracks. Bizarre.
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30ranfordfan said:
But even if you look at this year's early releases. Neither Kadri nor Schenn should have had cards out before the season started. Last year they each got into those "emergency" call-up situations, thus should not have been eligable for cards to be made.

They've both been in games this year (obviously) so I think most sets past the first few releases would have been fine.

But based on the "rules" they had no more business being included in the early releases than did Torrie Jung (WHL goalie, dressed as an emergency backup for the Oilers).
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I disagree here. An "emergency call up" should definitely be treated differently if the player is already signed to an NHL contract.
 
I don't disagree with you, and the difference is fairly obvious.... but I don't remember the language in the rule mentioning those two possibilities differently. (And I don't know where to find a copy of those rules - I'm just going from memory)

The Great Zo said:
I disagree here. An "emergency call up" should definitely be treated differently if the player is already signed to an NHL contract.
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