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Lol, Are you talking about the price or that he got a 1 of 1 graded. Never understood why people do that. I thought grading was to make a card more desirable among other copies. To each their own I guess. No wonder BGS and PSA are so busy.
 
As much as it may surprise everyone in the room to hear it from me, it's a smart play, especially with a 1/1 of the current highly desirable rookie. It WILL boost the realized price, as well as protecting the card.
 
I just bought something from that seller at the local show. He has very good prices on a lot of his stuff. I bought two cards from him for $10, one if which I expect to flip for about $40 or $50, and the other for my PC, the same card which I was offered $200 for my only copy a couple of years ago.

$4K seems like a reasonable price for a BGS9.5 1 of 1, of the hottest rookie this year. If that was a similar card for McDavid or Crosby, sellers would price it at $15K-20K easily. He also has a BO feature, so may expect less than the BIN.

Keep in mind, that seller also does consignments, and he may not be the person setting the price.
 
Grading a 1/1 in my mind simply certifies its condition, which is useful only if you plan on selling it. It gives the buyer a firm knowledge of condition without having to analyze a scan or photo. Personally I would pay less for a damaged 1/1 than if it was in mint shape. However, if I did not plan on selling, I would never grade a 1/1.
 
This is why I've cut back on hockey cards and why I tell everyone that there's no money in the new stuff. Comparing (crab) apples to (giant fuji) apples, here is an auction for a Walker Buehler Superfractor:

Walker Buehler

Keep in mind that this is a guy who is pegged as a big deal for the LA Dodgers, which isn't a small market team. However, this card sold ungraded for $4,000US which people will think will one day seem like bargain.

Now you look at a guy like Matthew Barzal who has starred for the Islanders and his version of the Superfractor can't even get a bite at $4,000 CANADIAN, and people are seeing this price as a ripoff. I'll say this, if you want the current hockey card market to be strong or even partially close to what baseball is, you need cards like this to sell for $4,000.

Also, I'm in the camp that I would get that card graded for protection. I have a Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. Superfractor autograph that I had graded by BGS and it was strictly for it's own protection being a high dollar card. That this card was graded 9.5 is gravy.
 
TanguayFan said:
$4K seems like a reasonable price for a BGS9.5 1 of 1, of the hottest rookie this year. If that was a similar card for McDavid or Crosby, sellers would price it at $15K-20K easily. He also has a BO feature, so may expect less than the BIN.

Keep in mind, that seller also does consignments, and he may not be the person setting the price.
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What he said.
 
Seems like a reasonable point to take offers at, especially in today’s eBay market where everything is listed at ungodly prices in hopes of hitting a jackpot.

I’m also in the graded court. I grade everything for my personal collection. I don’t do it for the increased value or whatever, I just think it looks ten times better. Also, I would 100% rather buy a graded card than an ungraded card, no matter the item. Most raw cards I buy turn out to suck condition wise and with all the scamming today, why not take the extra protection?
 
The hockey market is much smaller than any of the three other sports. One company with a dozen products dominates the market and singles still sell for almost nothing unless they're extremely rare.

In the other sports multiple companies flood the market with singles and they still routinely outsell hockey singles. A good example is SP Authentic rookies versus Bowman Chrome Autographs in baseball. If you factor in all of the parallels you're basically looking at a rookie card that is numbered out of 2000+ versus a card that is capped at 999. The worst prospects in Baseball will still outsell guys with full time NHL potential because that Chrome auto could be worth $1000+ if the guy has a hot streak at the plate/mound. Even a great player like Laine's FWA is selling for $200-$250. I just sold a Boeser tonight for $200.

I also don't think it helps that the major market for hockey cards (Canada) is cost prohibitive to send to from the USA.
 
I gotta say, I would never pay that price, but I'm not overly surprised by the number. He's not that far away from making that price look good..
 
Triple B said:
This is why I've cut back on hockey cards and why I tell everyone that there's no money in the new stuff. Comparing (crab) apples to (giant fuji) apples, here is an auction for a Walker Buehler Superfractor:

Walker Buehler

Keep in mind that this is a guy who is pegged as a big deal for the LA Dodgers, which isn't a small market team. However, this card sold ungraded for $4,000US which people will think will one day seem like bargain.

Now you look at a guy like Matthew Barzal who has starred for the Islanders and his version of the Superfractor can't even get a bite at $4,000 CANADIAN, and people are seeing this price as a ripoff. I'll say this, if you want the current hockey card market to be strong or even partially close to what baseball is, you need cards like this to sell for $4,000.

Also, I'm in the camp that I would get that card graded for protection. I have a Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. Superfractor autograph that I had graded by BGS and it was strictly for it's own protection being a high dollar card. That this card was graded 9.5 is gravy.
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cardboardnostalgia said:
The hockey market is much smaller than any of the three other sports. One company with a dozen products dominates the market and singles still sell for almost nothing unless they're extremely rare.

In the other sports multiple companies flood the market with singles and they still routinely outsell hockey singles. A good example is SP Authentic rookies versus Bowman Chrome Autographs in baseball. If you factor in all of the parallels you're basically looking at a rookie card that is numbered out of 2000+ versus a card that is capped at 999. The worst prospects in Baseball will still outsell guys with full time NHL potential because that Chrome auto could be worth $1000+ if the guy has a hot streak at the plate/mound. Even a great player like Laine's FWA is selling for $200-$250. I just sold a Boeser tonight for $200.

I also don't think it helps that the major market for hockey cards (Canada) is cost prohibitive to send to from the USA.
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You both make great points, baseball has "IT", hockey does not.
 

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