TUF 10 Finale Tonight

canucksfreak19

canucksfreak19

Verified Trader,
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
16,592
Reaction score
0
Location
Calgary, AB
Everybody made weight:

Roy Nelson (263) vs. Brendan Schaub (240)
Matt Hamill (206) vs. Jon Jones (206)
Frankie Edgar (155) vs. Matt Veach (155)
Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson (212) vs. Houston Alexander (208)
Marcus Jones (262) vs. Matt Mitrione (255)
Jon Madsen (247) vs. Justin Wren (251)
Darrill Schoonover (261) vs. James McSweeney (235)
Brian Stann (205) vs. Rodney Wallace (203)
John Howard (169) vs. Dennis Hallman (170)
Mark Bocek (156) vs. Joe Brammer (155)

Big Roy's been my pick all along but I've been really impressed by Schaub on the show. I am also looking forward to Bones Jones fighting again.
 
Now that was an impressive win from Roy. I called it from day 1. Bug Country got it done. He was clearly the most skilled, and he came through.
 
Here are the results:

Mark Bocek over Joe Brammer Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) 1 3:36
John Howard over Dennis Hallman KO (Punches) 3 4:55
Brian Stann over Rodney Wallace Decision (Unanimous) 3 5:00
Jon Madsen over Justin Wren Decision (Split) 3 5:00
James McSweeney over Darrill Schoonover TKO (Punches and Knees) 3 3:20
Matt Mitrione over Marcus Jones KO (Punches) 2 0:10
Frankie Edgar over Matt Veach Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) 2 2:22
Kevin Ferguson over Houston Alexander Decision (Unanimous) 3 5:00
Matt Hamil overl Jon Jones DQ (Illegal Downward Elbows) 1 4:14
Roy Nelson over Brendan Schaub KO (Punch) 1 3:45
 
canucksfreak19 said:
That's BS, because it was not the illegal blow that caused the stop of the fight.
Click to expand...

Its a win-lose situation. It was The Hammer's shoulder that was separated as to why he did not go on. However, the ref did not know that at the time. The first illegal elbow is the one that really opened up that gruesome cut on his nose, thats why the ref thought Hamill was done so therefore.........

In the end, you gotta look at it this way. The move was illegal, Jones shouldn't have thrown it (twice). Just because it wasn't the reason it didn't end the fight doesn't mean it couldn't have.

Not to mention, I really dislike the way Jones reacted when the fight was called when he thought he won. When you think you've ended the fight on an illegal move.............doing a cartwheel isn't exactly the classiest thing to do. Although Hamill is somewhat lucky, me thinks it was over soon either way, Hamill could not get out from that mount.

Other note, Kimbo actually looks and fought like a true MMA fighter, good on him. I really like him so I'm glad to see he is evolving as a MMA fighter and not just a brawler. His throws were very impressive, however you could tell most of his ground training was defensive because when he got on top, he really didn't know what to do. His positioning was great but in the way of elbows and submissions, he was lost.
 
Last edited:
bkrysko said:
Its a win-lose situation. It was The Hammer's shoulder that was separated as to why he did not go on. However, the ref did not know that at the time. The first illegal elbow is the one that really opened up that gruesome cut on his nose, thats why the ref thought Hamill was done so therefore.........

In the end, you gotta look at it this way. The move was illegal, Jones shouldn't have thrown it (twice). Just because it wasn't the reason it didn't end the fight doesn't mean it couldn't have.

Not to mention, I really dislike the way Jones reacted when the fight was called when he thought he won. When you think you've ended the fight on an illegal move.............doing a cartwheel isn't exactly the classiest thing to do. Although Hamill is somewhat lucky, me thinks it was over soon either way, Hamill could not get out from that mount.
Click to expand...

He always does the cartwheel after a win, whether or not it was after the illegal elbow.

From MMAjunkie:

Despite the stunning turn of events, Jones was classy in unexpected defeat. He politely asked fans not to cheer for him, and he didn't complain about the decision.

Now I don't know how it is supposed to be done. If Mike (Turtlelo) comes in after hopefully he can shed some light on the subject but, are the refs supposed to talk to the fighter about stopping the fight, and what is wrong with the fighter?

If it does not matter whether the ref should talk to a fighter than it's a moot point. But if there should be dialogue between official and fighter I think the ref failed because he went to the replay and not the fighter.

again from MMAjunkie:

After the fight, Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the fight actually prompted the commission's first use of instant replay, which was instituted (in a limited capacity) earlier this year.

I just think it should have been a no contest. Either way this is not going to sidetrack Jones at all. He's training at Jackson's camp now which will only make him better.
 
Last edited:
canucksfreak19 said:
He always does the cartwheel after a win, whether or not it was after the illegal elbow.

From MMAjunkie:

Despite the stunning turn of events, Jones was classy in unexpected defeat. He politely asked fans not to cheer for him, and he didn't complain about the decision.
Click to expand...

That makes me fee la bit better about the situation. Dialogue should have definitely been opened and questions should have been asked. They weren't, I don't know if thats protocol or not but its unfortunate.

Instant replay wouldn't have mattered though, if they thought it was the cut on the nose the replay would have showed the elbow that opened it and they would have called DQ anyway.
 

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
389,456
Messages
2,232,732
Members
4,146
Latest member
E_Thom_Tech
Back
Top