United States Tax Ramifications (The Uncle Sam Thread)

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Hey Group,

I am wondering if there are any American members that do not own a store, but sell enough hockey cards through Ebay that they are forced to pay taxes. I seem to recall when I signed up for Paypal, that they said if I were to sell over $20,000 in product, they would send me a 1099 and I would have to report it as miscellaneous income. For year end, I will be nowhere near that figure (I probably sold a couple thousand or so), but I just wonder if I were ever audited by the IRS, if they would start asking questions regarding this income, even though it probably represents less than one-third of the actual cost basis. Like many members on here, I sell a lot of the dupes or things I don't need and use the proceeds to offset the cost of future card releases. Just looking for some feedback and to possibly generate an interesting discussion. I would imagine for the members that break a lot of high-end products (esp. Cup, Dominion), these sales could add up quite quickly!

I realize the whole "you should always contact your tax advisor" angle, and I do plan on posing this question to him early next year just since I really just got into this hobby this year. I didn't really keep receipts of purchases (which I will begin doing in 2012). But I just wonder...do any American members claim this great hobby on Schedule E of their personal tax returns?

To the mods: if this topic is too sensitive, I would understand if it needed to be removed for privacy purposes. But to any potential respondents... remember, never share personal information through open forums! And of course, Canadians, feel free to openly talk about Canadian tax implications too...I am sure many of you might share the same concern considering that the year has ended and tax season will be soon upon us.
 
I would have replied had I been into the $20k figure, but since UD changed the rules I do not need to worry about that. I won't break cases and cases of product anymore - but I will tell you that I do not think that the IRS wants any part of a sports collectors filing!!!!

Can you imagine if they wanted to audit you and you started showing them some of the massive losses when you added in 'dud cases', supplies, donated commons and internet time and so on??? They are targeting the people that make a living selling on Ebay - but I can't see anyone in this hobby actually making enough profit on Ebay to actually sustain themselves!
 
This is interesting.

Bruce, your response seems logical, and got me thinking.

Let's say the IRS audits a guy for a totally different reason, and in their investigation, find out the dude sells around 15G of cards on eBay. They then decide that they're going to ding the dude for that income. This means he should also be able to (logically) deduct all related expenses for the cards as an expense.

Here's the question: The card hobby is basically run on a 'no-receipt' system for the most part. How would the dude ever be able to prove how much he paid for the cards, supplies, the time, the gas to go to the PO, etc.?

I have a feeling that if this situation happened in Canada, the dude would be out-of-luck, only being able to declare expenses on stuff he actually had a a receipt for. But, tax law and deductions are so freaking different in the US (can't you guys deduct the interest charges on your mortgage or something like that!?!?), that I am curious about it.
 
Randy - I used to put almost all of my purchases on a CC - because I was dealing with out-of-state case sellers so I did have receipts. And since I also bought a fair amount from one local LCS - they actually track customer purchases through a 'club' program.

You have to have the receipts if you get audited - or they will hammer you. But ALL of your expenses can be used towards negating the sales income.

As far as home mortgages - yes it is true.....
Why do you think the US IRS tax code is such a joke???
They practically encourage people to add debt.
 

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