Hoffy814
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Vick is a thug. end of story.
If this kid is being a thug at college. What will he do in the NFL's freedom.
If this kid is being a thug at college. What will he do in the NFL's freedom.
Vick Dismissed!
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Hoffy814 said:
That's what everyone says about Allen Iverson. end of story.
leafschik1967
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He was a freshman, so I assume he was 18 or 19 at the time. It isn't that big of an age difference in year wise, but it should be huge maturity-wise. There is no good reason for a college freshman to be hanging around getting high school girls drunk. That's why the adult is held responsible in this case, and the girls were not.
Eighteen year olds can be perfectly functioning members of society if they so choose, and making excuses for these guys just gives them an excuse to never grow up.
Eighteen year olds can be perfectly functioning members of society if they so choose, and making excuses for these guys just gives them an excuse to never grow up.
leafschik1967 said:
18-19, he's still a minor himself. You can't buy alcohol unless you are 21. I know because one of my friends, who is now deceased, went to a club with me and another friend. I was fresh out of high school. On the way to the club, I had a blowout tire and made it one street over from a payphone. My friend at the time was 33. He had a beer which was on the floor on the passenger side where he was sitting. My other friend was 17, going on 18. I left walking to go to the payphone. Apparently, while I was gone, the 33 year old popped the top on the beer and took a sip before he and the 17 year old walked up to where I was. After calling AAA, I went back to the car first to find 2 police cars (one in front of my car and one behind). The first thing the officer-in-charge said when I got there was, "Is this your vehicle?". I said yes it is. He then asked me to put my hands on top of the car. I ask why. He said he is standard procedure. So I did. He asked did I have any weapons on me. I told him no. After patting me down, he asked did I have anyone with me. I told him 2 friends. He then called in my license plates and told them the make and model. They reported a car like mine was stolen, but it was a '89 model. Mine was '88. He asked me what year was it, I told him '88. He asked, "'89?". I said no, 88. After that came up clean, my 2 friends came down the hill. He did them the same way he did me. After finding nothing on them, he asked could he search the vehicle. I said sure. He openned my door and went through the car and pulled out the full beer bottle with the broken seal. He asked who did it belong to. The 33 year old said it was his and that he took a sip out of it. He them asked was I drinking. I told him I don't drink which is why I was the driving and will take a breathalizer test on the spot. So, he then went to the 17 year old and separated him from us and basically made him say he had some of the beer. Now, they charged us with contributing to a minor and took the 17 year old to jail where his dad had to pick him up. Me and the 33 year old got citations. Because it was now "alcohol" related, AAA wouldn't cover it, but they intercepted the call that the policeman made. While we were waiting, his partner pulled me to the side and said the other policeman was wrong but since he was the officer-in-charge, nothing he could do. Well, when AAA showed up, they had they received the paperwork from the officer that showed it was alcohol related and we had to pay to have it towed. The 33 year old paid the $75 to have the car towed back home. Well, even though we were in the middle of nowhere, I went to high school with one of the drivers. They told me the story and handed me the paperwork. On the paperwork, the officer put down that my doors were locked. Well, since there was a car in front and the back of my vehicle facing it, the video would have shown that was a false statement. Both friends mailed in their fines, but I went ahead and drove the 45 minutes to go to court. The judge asked how I pleaded and I told her not guilty. She told me the officer was not present and that she would have to re-schedule. I told her fine. So, she asked me a couple of personal questions about my family (which I was thinking what does this have to do with this event).
All in all, they deferred the charge and said if I stayed out of trouble for 6 months, it wouldn't go on my record, but I still had to pay court cost. Well, my fine was $55. Court cost was $35. Well, paying $35 and the charge wouldn't be on my record sounded like a good idea. So, I wrote a check and left.
Now, if I would have played football or basketball in college, it would have been in local news that I was charged with contributing to a minor and having legal problems. When the officer was just being an @$$ to find out everyone in the court room was there because of him (yep, while waiting on the judge, we all sat together chatting it up). Then a guy I worked with lived in that area and knew him. Said he was a detective wanna-be that failed the test, so he had to do traffic. Also, said he was a racist and did all minorities in that area the same way.
I looked at the policeman's badge, so I remembered his name and Unit number just in case he showed up for court and tried to deny anything.
So, when I see reports like that, I try to see the entire picture.
If Vick was 18 and they were 17, there shouldn't have been a big fuss about it. They all are too young to drink, so he is not contributing to a minor. All of them are underage drinkers.
leafschik1967
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They were 14 year old girls. And he hasn't exactly cleaned up his act. 18 is legally an adult for many things - you can sign a contract, you can be charged as an adult, etc.
leafschik1967 said:
But you can't legally drink. So, there are a lot of things you can do, but this particular incident, he couldn't. That's like me saying I could drive a car at age 14 and trained to drive a forklift, but legally I wasn't suppose to.
leafschik1967
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18 is old enough to take responsibility for yourself and your actions.
He was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor - because he was an adult.
He was charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor - because he was an adult.
leafschik1967 said:
That's crazy because he was also underage when it comes to drinking. Nevermind, we talking about Virginia. Nevermind
