fergy559 tins going fromo $300 per 4-6 cards shooting up to $700 per 4-6 card tin (yes a shop had them for $700 and actually sold them, they turned out to be very good tins actually, but crazy price). Pack price always come into play when it comes to values, The Cup moreso then any other release.
As for the commons, the reason why the sids/ao's of previous sets loosing value, well a lot of non hockey collectors are what drove the price of sid/ao all year long. now with the cup they are basically chasing down any cup rookie with nice colors. they could care less who the player is. if you have 5 psychos chasing 1 card of a no namer, expect the value to reflect this. Its not odd to see a picard with a nice patch sell for $70-100. Value's are only based on what people would pay for a specific card, look at the flashback fabrics, of course UD could be wrong but they said the sp's are only 10-20% less of a print run then the regulars. Tell the people who are paying $300+ for a trottier that..