Will My ITG Cards Still Hold Value?

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I have quite a bit of ITG cards. I'm not looking to sell but if I do, will my rarer cards still hold any value?

Selling online you can buy a Gretzky /10 for $100 if the time is right. Error in listing, time of listing ending etc...

I have recently been intrigued by the value I've paid.
 
I'm not an authority by any means but I recall Pacific brand cards taking a nosedive in value once they went out of business. The question you're asking is actually what I'm struggling with currently because I really want to open a box of the original Ultimate Memorabilia from 2001 but I don't know if the cards I pull will come close to recouping the value of a $1000 box.
 
I guess it depends on when you initially bought the cards. As the second poster alluded to, the early BAP issues went for big money at the time, but prices have really softened. Even the tough /10 cards don't break $60+. Unless it's vintage (Vezina, Richard, etc.) or Gretzky, most cards can be had for reasonable amounts.
 
I know the BTP stuff has already went way down. Patrick Roy autos which were $100 to buy if you got a deal now cannot even be sold for $40.
 
I cant add to the ITG prices cause I barely collect now but other than what is currently released how are are comparable card from other companies selling? For example a Roy auto from 2004 made by Ud compared to ITG? Is it the market across the board or ITG that took a hit?
 
Jester240 said:
I cant add to the ITG prices cause I barely collect now but other than what is currently released how are are comparable card from other companies selling? For example a Roy auto from 2004 made by Ud compared to ITG? Is it the market across the board or ITG that took a hit?
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That's certainly true.

chemicalstylez said:
Honestly with the release of the vault products the ITG cards have taken a huge hit value wise. If you ignore those insane buy it now prices you can find stuff VERY cheap: you cant pay any attention to the inflated buy it nows. If you want true value go to completed sales and look through there. Perfect example I just won a maurice richard jersey card for $29 from ultimate vault. Before vault came out that price was non existent.... ITG flooded the market with high end cards for a fraction of the price. And for someone like myself it's fantastic, I'm now buying top end cards at pricing I can afford. And like you said.....Gretzky stuff is cheaper, so cheap that I bought 2 ultimate vault cards of him.
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I imagine that non-vault copies sell for quite a bit more, though, due to set collectors wanting the original versions.
 
I agree with chemicalstylez. Right now, this is a bad time to sell ITG stuff, but a good time to buy. The market is just flooded with Ultimate Vault, Superlative Vault and whatever other back stock ITG might have released in recent months. Prices will probably stabilize after many of these cards are absorbed by collectors. If you're not looking to sell and the cards are part of your collection (and not an investment) then don't worry about it. Frankly, I've found most auto and memorabilia cards trend down over time anyways. They just make more every year.
 
i don't buy/sell much but i do follow trends and timing is EVERYTHING when your looking to maximize return on investment.right now the market is somewhat saturated with the Vault releases,and it does tend to soften the un-stamped original copies at the moment.but,when this Vault product dries up,and it will sooner then later,interest will again trend to the earlier ITG licensed cards,stamped or not.if i were looking to sell i'd hold off until the start of the new season,when interest has peaked for the sport in general.
 
Same here, seeing this as an opportunity to fill some holes in my collection. I agree with many above, right now the prices might be pretty soft, but the market will even out somewhere in the middle.

Bad time for the "flippers", GREAT time for the "hoarders".
 
Looking at past trends can definitely help here. When Pacific went out of business prices dropped but after a time some of the really rare stuff still held value. When pinnacle went out again prices dropped however a lot of their rare stuff slowly flooded out to market and most of those cards have not recovered. Pro-set well need is say more. We could also look at non licensed stuff like Classic Drafts and 7th inning sketch but they really don't compare due to the evolution of cards since then.
 
No No No.....The other Steve said:
Looking at past trends can definitely help here. When Pacific went out of business prices dropped but after a time some of the really rare stuff still held value. When pinnacle went out again prices dropped however a lot of their rare stuff slowly flooded out to market and most of those cards have not recovered. Pro-set well need is say more. We could also look at non licensed stuff like Classic Drafts and 7th inning sketch but they really don't compare due to the evolution of cards since then.
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Pacific and Pinnacle were insert driven floods, ITG is more of a game used and autograph as far as we will ever know. I doubt that the quantities will come close to cause the same kind of crash. I would imagine that any non autograph or jersey items either have been destroyed or will be at some time. Hopefully some day Dr Price will give a full detail of exactly what has been done...
 
So private stock, titanium, luxury suite which were all 1 gu per pack or more were insert driven?

Pinnacle bit the dust before the gu craze but when you consider a mirror gold gretzky/yzerman/roy/Sakic etc.. couldn't be had for under at a bare minimum of $300+ and you can pick them up now for $20-50 I'd day that's a pretty fair comparison on flooding and value.
 
I just don't understand why in the world some of the really high end stuff that has been released in this product was just sitting on a shelf somewhere. If a card is damaged in the manufacturing process why does a replacement need to be on hand? Especially when its featuring a piece of memorabilia from a guy like Vezina.
 
I got a feeling that the reason why ITG cards are loosing value is not just the fact that the ITG left the hobby. Also the decision to release a huge amount of high end cards from the VAULT should have its own impact on prices! Luk.
 
cardboardnostalgia said:
I just don't understand why in the world some of the really high end stuff that has been released in this product was just sitting on a shelf somewhere. If a card is damaged in the manufacturing process why does a replacement need to be on hand? Especially when its featuring a piece of memorabilia from a guy like Vezina.
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because when the company (ITG) is paying the printer to run off a set of cards it's cost efficient to have them run a second set at the same time so if a problem does occur they do not have to pay for the printer to set up and run off a complete set of cards again at a later date.

also,lets be careful here with the term "flood".we can't compare what happened with Pinnacle and Pacific to whats going on with ITG Vault,or the Best of Hockey stamped cards.maybe it's me,but when a cards print run goes from 5 to 9 or 9 to 13 it's not the same as 30 to 60 or 75 to 150 as was the case with Mirror Golds and Ice Blues.

honestly,all the Vault cards have increased print runs of no more than 1-4 cards of any given card that has been stamped.ask any collector if they would want a Vezina or Richard piece in their collection with stamp or not,i believe they would take the stamp card over non at all.
 
1-3 of the regular version in vault, 1-3 of the gold version of vault, how many copies in Leaf best of hockey? How many show stamp versions? How many cross Canada versions? The how many after all that leaking out the back door (extra stock dump)? It adds up quite quickly and I think it's a very fair comparison
 
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also,lets be careful here with the term "flood".we can't compare what happened with Pinnacle and Pacific to whats going on with ITG Vault,or the Best of Hockey stamped cards.maybe it's me,but when a cards print run goes from 5 to 9 or 9 to 13 it's not the same as 30 to 60 or 75 to 150 as was the case with Mirror Golds and Ice Blues.
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Sorry - I have to disagree with your analogy here.
it is MUCH worse for the value of a card to go from 4 copies to 7 or 8 then it is to go from 30 to 45 or even 75 to 150!
The value in ITG Ultimate & Superlative cards was the swatches and the rarity of the pieces. when the consumer feels that there are only 2 or 4 copies of an item - they are FAR more likely to attain that item at a higher cost. When they are subsequently able to buy that piece months or years later at a new release they will buy it cheaper.

The collectors that bought the initial releases believing that they had a very rare card are NOT going to bid on the new issues of the same card, or if they do certainly not at the prices they previously paid. The new issues - really they are EXACTLY like the originals but with new numbering and maybe a foil stamp - have devalued the original. Anyone who does not believe this - really needs to take some basic economics lessons.


I understand why this has happened - but it does not make me happy.I have 70 or 100 Yzerman ITG Ultimate and other issue cards that are now worth less than they were 3 months ago. And please do not use the argument that these releases don;t affect the originals - just start looking at Yzerman closed auction histories for the last 5 months.
 

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