Dany Heatley requests trade

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BCEaglesfan82 said:
Here's a little trade I saw elsewhere.

Dany Heatley and Jason Smith to LA for Alex Frolov, Jack Johnson, and LA's 5th overall (Brayden Schenn).
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Well, rumor has it that Smith may actually retire (pleeeeeeaaaaaase let this be true) and take a job as a D-coach
 
frankiefives said:
Well, rumor has it that Smith may actually retire (pleeeeeeaaaaaase let this be true) and take a job as a D-coach
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If this is true you could put Kelly or Schubert, maybe both, in that trade in Jason's spot.
 
fly4apuckguy said:
First, I don't know if this is a rumor or not, so I won't comment on Heatley specifically.

But I will defend players in general. What you wrote is easy to say, until you put yourself in a player's shoes.

We all think it is so easy, these whiny millionaires. The truth is, they are just guys like us who want a good working environment and a successful career and a good life.

Don't begrudge someone of personal hapiness just because they get paid a lot. At the end of the day, it's not about the money for most of these guys.

Your perspective changes a lot when you know one of these boys, and see what they go through to earn their money, knowing someday they will be tossed aside like a piece of garbage once their skills have eroded.
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Good points, Travis. But onto the topic at hand, I don't think it is a bad thing when a player requests a trade, contract obligations or not. If a guy isn't happy, and things continue to go a certain way (as they are in Ottawa), it might be time for a change. I think it would be good if Heatley got a chance to move on, and continue his career somewhere more promising. Maybe he is just done with Ottawa. I wish him good luck anyway.
 
I was thinking the same thing, however I am pretty sure the Oil would not need nor want to give up their 1st rounder, as they have boatloads of young players to flip.

The Oil would not have any use for a d-man in return, especially if they plan to bid for Bouwmeester too, so I would be happy with this type of trade senario:

Oilers receive: Heatley
Sens receive: Gilbert, O'Sullivan and Nilsson

For the Sens fans that may think the Sens would not be interested in such a proposal, just hear me out for a second....
The Sens definitely are in the market for a #2 offensive defenseman (which is what Gilbert is practically already achieving in status...maybe a cross between #2/#3). Acquiring him makes total sense!

Secondly, I do believe that the Sens will be required to pay a previously agreed $4M signing bonus to Heatley that comes to term in July if he is still with the team, so like it or not Murray has to make a deal this month, as I'm quite positive they will have absolutely no intention of honoring that bonus cash payment.

So if you were Murray, would you pay upwards of $8M next season to keep a disgruntled Heatley on the roster, or pay just less than that for three great players...one of which would improve your back-end considerably and two skilled forwards that could also contribute offensively.

That is unless Calgary were to offer Phaneuf straight-up, then the Sens would be crazy not to do that deal!

frankiefives said:
Well, the talk on Team 1200 today (and they are simply speculating) is that Murray has known about this for a while now. They will move Heatley's salary and take some back but leave space to chase down Bouwmeester. Interesting thought...

Here's a deal I wouldn't mind seeing:

Oilers get Heatley & one of our extra D-men (Lee, Smith or Schubert)

Sens get Gilbert, O'Sullivan & 2009 first round pick
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2fnlo said:
Worst trade ever.

Oilers receive: Heatley
Sens receive: Gilbert, O'Sullivan and Gagner or Cogliano and possibly picks also

Thats more like it.
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Talk about selling the farm. :) I think the deal will be somewhere in between the first and second proposals

maybe

Heatley

for

Gilbert
Gagner
2nd round pick.

Heatley is obviously the best player in the deal, but he has requested a trade(which I believe automatically lowers his value), and he has a rather large cap hit, with the cap expected to come down soon. So you won`t get the moon for him.

I think if Ottawa was interested, a Lecavalier for Heatley deal could work. Tampa would shave off a little salary, and Ottawa won`t deplete it`s talent level by trading Heatley. Ottawa may be able to get a little more out of Tampa as well considering the access salary and term they would take on.
 
OilersRule said:
Oilers receive: Heatley
Sens receive: Gilbert, O'Sullivan and Nilsson

That is unless Calgary were to offer Phaneuf straight-up, then the Sens would be crazy not to do that deal!
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No offense but the deal you suggest would probably have Murray fired. Either their first rounder or a young prospect instead of a lazy, dissapointing former first round pick

As for Phaneuf, he's good and all but he's still too inconsistent for my taste
 
supercec said:
Talk about selling the farm. :) I think the deal will be somewhere in between the first and second proposals

maybe

Heatley

for

Gilbert
Gagner
2nd round pick.

Heatley is obviously the best player in the deal, but he has requested a trade(which I believe automatically lowers his value), and he has a rather large cap hit, with the cap expected to come down soon. So you won`t get the moon for him.

I think if Ottawa was interested, a Lecavalier for Heatley deal could work. Tampa would shave off a little salary, and Ottawa won`t deplete it`s talent level by trading Heatley. Ottawa may be able to get a little more out of Tampa as well considering the access salary and term they would take on.
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I can tell you right now, I'm 99% sure the Sens won't do a 1 for 1 deal (unless it was for a #1 D-man). I think they've learned their lesson when it comes to overpaying for 3 forwards. It cripples your team salary cap-wise. I believe they will look to get younger and better on the back-end. That being said, I could definitely live with your first proposal but I dn't think the Oilers are ready to deal Gagner just yet
 
frankiefives said:
As for Phaneuf, he's good and all but he's still too inconsistent for my taste
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Inconsistent? He has scored more goals than any one other D man since his rookie year.

True he had a bad year this year. But, Oh yeah! Playing with a fractured hip since November probably had nothing to do with it. Phaneuf will be back to form next season, I guarantee. And if Brent comes to coach (Phaneuf's former task master who groomed him to greatness) watch out.

supercec said:
Talk about selling the farm. :) I think the deal will be somewhere in between the first and second proposals

maybe

Heatley

for

Gilbert
Gagner
2nd round pick.
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Dude is a 50 goal scorer, they don't grow on trees. All you have there is a 4th or 5th Dman on a decent team (Oilers fans will disagree but to this date it is the realistic truth), and a 10 goal scorer who hasn't done anything to impress so far.
 
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I'm not sure if the Sens will be able to get a good enough return for Heatley to justify trading him. I think teams will be hesitant to give up a bundle of good young players for a player on long contract with a big cap hit.
 
2fnlo said:
Inconsistent? He has scored more goals than any one other D man since his rookie year.

True he had a bad year this year. But, Oh yeah! Playing with a fractured hip since November probably had nothing to do with it. Phaneuf will be back to form next season, I guarantee. And if Brent comes to coach (Phaneuf's former task master who groomed him to greatness) watch out.
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He's VERY inconsistent defensively. Didn't he also go a looooong stretch this year without scoring a goal?
 
frankiefives said:
That's a good excuse LOL.
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Ha ha ha. Your right. Perhaps he should have told the media that he refused to get surgery in November for his amputated leg and that his bad season as accredited to having to play on a wooden leg all season. At least then he would have been considered to have a legit injury. :|
 
2fnlo said:
Worst trade ever.

Oilers receive: Heatley
Sens receive: Gilbert, O'Sullivan and Gagner or Cogliano and possibly picks also

Thats more like it.
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I'm a Oilers fan but I won't comment. Although on another board, a fan asked if they would do a Gagner + Gilbert for Heatley and alot are saying no. They don't want to trade Gagner but are willing to give up Cogliano. What about
Heatley + pick or a avg.prospect
for
Gilbert, O'Sullivan, Cogliano, and the 2010 1st round pick
(similiar to what you offered) I would be hesitant to do this and I'm sure alot of the Oilers fans will be against it. Personally, if the Oilers can sign a decent defenseme, I would see if Souray is willing to go to Ottawa. Souray + Cogliano for Heatley?
 
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punkoholic said:
I'm a Oilers fan but I won't comment. Although on another board, a fan asked if they would do a Gagner + Gilbert for Heatley and alot are saying no. They don't want to trade Gagner but are willing to give up Cogliano. What about
Heatley + pick or a avg.prospect
for
Gilbert, O'Sullivan, Cogliano, and the 2010 1st round pick
(similiar to what you offered)
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No doubt giving up Gagner would be a huge loss, if he happens to develop into the player I am being told he can be(not trying to be a jerk I just don't follow scouting reports of Oilers). Still Heatley is a legit 50 goal scoring guy, and the price tag shall be high.

As for your revised proposal that could be closer along the lines of what Heatley will command.
 
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