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Grab your ankles time folks

I just off the phone with a rep named Garry I believe and I was inquiring about my 8 outstanding redemptions in which three were from June 2005. I told him I wanted to know exactly what the situation was there and what was the hold up on these cards and my other redemptions that I had.

You can choose to believe this or not, but this is what I was told.

I was told that any redemptions older than 6 months were not going to be made and that you will receive replacements for these cards from Upper Deck. I was told if they had not received Autographs by now they were not going to and that checklists would be modified to remove those cards from the set so set collectors could still be complete. He told me my 2 Upper Deck Ice Auto Patches, Cool Threads Auto Jersey and my Ultimate Pairings Dual would not be made and I most likely would receive replacements. I was told that my Six Star and Quad Auto from SPA June 2005 would most likely be made since there are limited autos but had no idea when they would be made and could not guarantee they would be made until the consultant finished.

Supposedly Upper Deck hired a consultant to come in and do a "house cleaning" on outstanding redemptions for all sports. They were to decide which cards would be made and which ones would not. Hockey was in process and would be completed by the end of February. He was not allowed to give any replacements or do anything until then.

He said Basketball and Football were done, so if there is any truth to this we should start seeing people getting replacements.

Not sure what to believe, maybe someone can call and get verification but I am just reporting what I was told..
 
Terry

If this is fact the case:
defense44 said:
I was told that any redemptions older than 6 months were not going to be made and that you will receive replacements for these cards from Upper Deck. I was told if they had not received Autographs by now they were not going to and that checklists would be modified to remove those cards from the set so set collectors could still be complete.
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This could spell the end of my 05 - 06 SPGU Heritage AU Jersey (outta 100)& Patch (10) cards of Langway. If this comes to pass, I'll be none the bit happy at all! :mad:
 
I hoping it's not true as well and this guy was like all the others I ever talked to at UD, full of you know what........
 
defense44 said:
Grab your ankles time folks

I just off the phone with a rep named Garry I believe and I was inquiring about my 8 outstanding redemptions in which three were from June 2005. I told him I wanted to know exactly what the situation was there and what was the hold up on these cards and my other redemptions that I had.

You can choose to believe this or not, but this is what I was told.

I was told that any redemptions older than 6 months were not going to be made and that you will receive replacements for these cards from Upper Deck. I was told if they had not received Autographs by now they were not going to and that checklists would be modified to remove those cards from the set so set collectors could still be complete. He told me my 2 Upper Deck Ice Auto Patches, Cool Threads Auto Jersey and my Ultimate Pairings Dual would not be made and I most likely would receive replacements. I was told that my Six Star and Quad Auto from SPA June 2005 would most likely be made since there are limited autos but had no idea when they would be made and could not guarantee they would be made until the consultant finished.

Supposedly Upper Deck hired a consultant to come in and do a "house cleaning" on outstanding redemptions for all sports. They were to decide which cards would be made and which ones would not. Hockey was in process and would be completed by the end of February. He was not allowed to give any replacements or do anything until then.

He said Basketball and Football were done, so if there is any truth to this we should start seeing people getting replacements.

Not sure what to believe, maybe someone can call and get verification but I am just reporting what I was told..
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I believe that this may very well be true.Two weeks ago I was also talking to UD and was told by a rep named Nick a very similiar story.Nick said that replacement cards would begin to be sent at the end of February.Only the very high end cards would remain and that they should be honored at some point.Sets that have redemption cards will be considered complete without them.Upper Deck will notify all publications with numbers that will not be available and they can print the listings as sets complete without certain numbers.So for us that have been paying these big dollars for these redemption cards for our Hot Prospects set may be just flushing our money down the drain.Thanks,Winston.
 
If that's the case with my Thornton/Carter Rookie Update dual auto, I'm not buying another box or pack of UD for a very long time.
 
Im glad they are trying to do something and wipe the slate clean, even though I personally dont totally agree with it. The only problem I have is it totaly destroys what little credibility there redemption process had left. Essentially killing the secondary market value on all there redemptions. Who is going to spend there hard earned money for a chance on getting the card they actually want?
 
I also just got off the phone with Barry and was told the exact same thing.
Some people are going to be very upset...

I understand them not wanting to get any further behind the perverbial 8 ball.
However, having an outside source decide which ones to make and which ones not to ssems a bit insane to me. Its almost like Upper Deck has this company doing it in order to be able to blame them to the ppl who arent getting cards made. Thats neither here nor there though.

In my opinion,
The proper way to wipe the slate clean is to not do any more redemptions until they have gotten all of the old ones shipped out...

Daniel
 
The idea of having redemptions in the first place still hasn't been explained to me. I don't see a need for their existence.

GL to all that have redempyions stil outstanding.
 
vegaspuck said:
Not a chance. Not when they advertise guys like Crosby, Orr, Malkin, Lemieux and Gretzky on their ad sheets. If one of those guys takes their time and they took Malkin out of SPA at the last minute because they stopped redemptions, how upset would you be sitting on a pre-order of SPA cases?
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Sure,
But there arent any current redemptions of Malkin out there....

Im talking about players who already have pending redemptions out there. No more of those players until their older redemptions have been satisfied.
Daniel
 
Whatever, they're ****ed if they do ****ed if they don't. I'm just waiting on confirmation that the 05/06 Ice Scripts won't be made so I can sell off that set as well. Sorry UD any set you remove cards from will never be complete in my books and no matter what you do to dance around your inabilities it won't change that fact.
 
So what about cards that they have released some of the stock on the card, while the others are still pending. I am waiting for a Khabibulin Remarkable Materials card from Beehive to be redeemed, while I know for a fact that some has been released. (Khabby - Dave) has one, and I was hoping to get one as well.
 
I replied on beckett and figured I should add a reply here, gotta love copy/paste ;)

Ah yes the great joke UD plans on unavailing to its customers in February. This is going to be an awesome month for sure, I expect an ever larger headache then my current pending redemptions. There was no team hired to clean this stuff up, this is just a nice way of UD saying anyone with a pending redemption prepared to be extremely upset at this new "team" it's not us I swear its this "team" we have here in place to do this. If anyone has had a replacement done knows this will be a horrible month for anyone waiting on a redemption. 99 out of 100 times you are left scratching your head when you hear a ud replacement story. I won't be one of them that is for sure, I would rather have a pending redemption then a random auto from 3 years ago that you have no interest in and couldnt sell at 10% of bv.

Listen up everyone, you purchased the specific redemption UD plans on pulling from under your feet. Everyone has the right to refuse their replacement. I have already made it known more then once that I am going to be extremely picky with my replacements and I want to know exactly what plans on being replaced with what. If I don't agree with what they are proposing I will deny it, If they plan on just sending me random cards like they have done in the past I will return the package.

Also, I want to be 100% guaranteed in a letter that the card I am having replaced will never be created.....ever. Just look at their first attempt at this a couple days ago with the Ovechkin/Kolzig dual sign of the times. 1 Person hears its not being produced here is random stuff you don't collect, 2 days later you see 3 people received their Ovechkin/Kolzig dual sign of the times. I can accept if a card wont be produced but I want to make sure this is the case first.
 
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jaywings19 said:
Black Diamond Ovechkin RC's for everyone!

Seriously, I can hear the printing presses fired up again. :rolleyes:
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Jay and to think this was denied as happening as it was going on. And it started up again a couple weeks ago. They are completely clueless, I cant wait for AO black diamond rookies to drop near $30 so I can pick one up to offset what I paid for mine like an idiot I thought it was a short printed quad.... sigh
 
WHAT!!! Mass. replacements for what cards?? Will all my SPGU Signature Sticks /5 be voided out? Some of those cost an arm(Beliveau, Hulls) are how are they going to replace those? Evolves of Cujo? How about all my Sharks triple and quint autos??
L
 
Well that's a steel toed punt to the mucker now isn't it?

I have a couple outstanding redemptions, one of which I have seen live copies of the card. A couple have yet to be made, although Nagy had live autos in both Artifacts and Trilogy this year. I find it hard to believe UD couldn't have removed 50 of the stickers and printed off copies of both of my outstanding redemptions (considering one was #'d to 25 and the other was seriously SP'd). That being said, it's not the end of the world for me if the redemptions don't get made. I do feel for the guys who have boatloads of highend stuff that isn't going to see the light of day. I'm also anxious to see if a couple of the cards from my checklist can be knocked off, notably the SPGU Signature Sticks x/5 which has not been produced yet.....

I guess I'll have to sit back and see how it all plays out before I start screaming bloody murder from the top of the nearest peak...

Rob
 
I will never ever ever buy a single redemption card again. I will wait until they appear LIVE on ebay or something before forking any money over.
 
But, but I thought.......LOL

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