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https://www.nhl.com/news/pierre-dorion-out-as-ottawa-senators-general-manager
Sort of was “eh, what’s the big deal, it happens” then read the reasoning behind the loss of the pick by the NHL. IMO, Vegas didn’t do their research. I am not 100% sure but doesn’t the contract a player signs state if there is a no-trade clause? If I do a search online, wouldn’t I find out that the Dadonov contract had a no-trade clause of some sort when he signed with Ottawa?
Oh, and the clincher, if I was in possession of the player and the contract, wouldn’t I be able to look that up in the contract?
My thinking here is: Vegas “said” they didn’t know about the no-trade clause that was in place. If the NHL can null & void a trade, they did their diligence in reviewing the contract and proceedings. It seems to me that Vegas skipped a step and said “oh, shttt” and passed the buck to Ottawa. Ottawa, not involved with the “next trade of a former player”, got blindsided and effed out of a 1st round pick in this ordeal.
A bit of tricky work. Vegas just won the shell game vs the Ottawa Senators and the NHL.
(On a side note: it was said that the Ducks was on the no-trade list of Dadonov when he was with Ottawa. The trade was attempted by Vegas and was blocked because Vegas didn’t request a new list, hence the previous list would be valid. If Vegas thought that the list was nulled once they had the contract, they would be right…new team, new list…but didn’t seek out the required list to make the previous null. The fault of the trade not happening is Vegas. There shouldn’t be any penalty unless Ottawa knowingly excluded the knowledge of the information which would be in the contract, which is hard to do since it is written in the contract. Also, if I knew a player was being traded, as a fan, there are sites out there that state “this player has a no-trade clause and these are the teams he has listed…” There are a few sites on Youtube that follow teams that state these for teams, fans or NHL in general, ESPN, too would be an OK source…NHL Network would spout this stuff for weeks.
I think that Ottawa should counter the ruling, stating that Vegas is at fault and should be compensated a 1st from Vegas in one of those years, also getting the previous ruling voided.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqqrqseFSD4
Pretty good breakdown of the Dorian era in Ottawa. I seriously think that the Duchene trade to Ottawa was one of the worst trades they made and collapsed the Ottawa franchise a few years ago (Ottawa went on a horrible 9-10 game losing skid after the trade). But, the team would not be as it is if it didn’t happen. :foottap:
Sort of was “eh, what’s the big deal, it happens” then read the reasoning behind the loss of the pick by the NHL. IMO, Vegas didn’t do their research. I am not 100% sure but doesn’t the contract a player signs state if there is a no-trade clause? If I do a search online, wouldn’t I find out that the Dadonov contract had a no-trade clause of some sort when he signed with Ottawa?
Oh, and the clincher, if I was in possession of the player and the contract, wouldn’t I be able to look that up in the contract?
My thinking here is: Vegas “said” they didn’t know about the no-trade clause that was in place. If the NHL can null & void a trade, they did their diligence in reviewing the contract and proceedings. It seems to me that Vegas skipped a step and said “oh, shttt” and passed the buck to Ottawa. Ottawa, not involved with the “next trade of a former player”, got blindsided and effed out of a 1st round pick in this ordeal.
A bit of tricky work. Vegas just won the shell game vs the Ottawa Senators and the NHL.
(On a side note: it was said that the Ducks was on the no-trade list of Dadonov when he was with Ottawa. The trade was attempted by Vegas and was blocked because Vegas didn’t request a new list, hence the previous list would be valid. If Vegas thought that the list was nulled once they had the contract, they would be right…new team, new list…but didn’t seek out the required list to make the previous null. The fault of the trade not happening is Vegas. There shouldn’t be any penalty unless Ottawa knowingly excluded the knowledge of the information which would be in the contract, which is hard to do since it is written in the contract. Also, if I knew a player was being traded, as a fan, there are sites out there that state “this player has a no-trade clause and these are the teams he has listed…” There are a few sites on Youtube that follow teams that state these for teams, fans or NHL in general, ESPN, too would be an OK source…NHL Network would spout this stuff for weeks.
I think that Ottawa should counter the ruling, stating that Vegas is at fault and should be compensated a 1st from Vegas in one of those years, also getting the previous ruling voided.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqqrqseFSD4
Pretty good breakdown of the Dorian era in Ottawa. I seriously think that the Duchene trade to Ottawa was one of the worst trades they made and collapsed the Ottawa franchise a few years ago (Ottawa went on a horrible 9-10 game losing skid after the trade). But, the team would not be as it is if it didn’t happen. :foottap:
