Name The Most Overrated Player In The Nhl

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Judging by the names being thrown out here, this has got to be the dumbest thread I have had the displeasure of clicking on....LOL.....
 
TANGUAY! :p


Not really Rob, stand down ;)


But I gotta side with Chris on this one. Luongo may have talent out the ying-yang, but in pro sports it's about winning the big prize. He hasn't achieved that. Come to think of it, I guess another over-rated player (in his prime) would have been Cujo.

I have no idea where Luongo is in the top 30 goalies, but I would have him lower than Ward. Yeah I'm biased, but this kid has hardware :dance:

Glenn
 
TanguayFan said:
Judging by the names being thrown out here, this has got to be the dumbest thread I have had the displeasure of clicking on....LOL.....
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It is pretty ridiculous, why would anyone mention Sakic, Luongo, Crosby. maybe if there were some legitimate responses like Brad Richards, Marian Hossa, players who have benifited from good players around them, but over rated players would be a lot of high draft picks that didn't/havn't done much. T. Ruutu, Luc Bourdon guys like that. Daigle, Yashin, Nedved type of players.
 
BigBarracuda said:
TANGUAY! :p


Not really Rob, stand down ;)


But I gotta side with Chris on this one. Luongo may have talent out the ying-yang, but in pro sports it's about winning the big prize. He hasn't achieved that. Come to think of it, I guess another over-rated player (in his prime) would have been Cujo.

I have no idea where Luongo is in the top 30 goalies, but I would have him lower than Ward. Yeah I'm biased, but this kid has hardware :dance:

Glenn
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You cant hold a teams success based only on a goalie. Just cause a guy has won the big prize and been awarded for his performance you cant say that makes him more skilled. I love Bill Ranford and he won a Stanley Cup and a Conn Smythe but there is no way I would say he is a higher skilled goalie then Luo.

There is no way I would trade Luongo for Ward and I dont think any GM would make that trade from teh canucks side, you have to think about things like that.
 
Magootz said:
Anyone who says Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin is overrated should probably be posting in the baseball section of this site :dizzy:

Guys don't turn this into a stupidity thread. Coming One-Two in the scoring is not overrated and if Crosby wasn't hurt, they would have been 1-2-3, HOW THE HELL IS THAT OVERRATED??
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You're completely overlooking the point(s) that some of us have brought up. Take a step back and read between the lines. There's a lot more to the story than a points total.
 
Are you for real?

If I recall you were part of the group that called Ovechkin Overrated? Well you said if Crosby is then Oveckin is!!

The Guy who said "Crosby isn't Gretzky great" and therefore said he's overrated???

That being said, EVERY NHL player to every play the game is overrated, because there aren't many, if any, that were/are or will ever be Gretzky great.

Do I really have to waste my time pointing out the reasons why Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin are NOT overrated in the game of Hockey or the HOBBY.

This is in the HOBBY section of the site no?



sgazi said:
You're completely overlooking the point(s) that some of us have brought up. Take a step back and read between the lines. There's a lot more to the story than a points total.
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Magootz said:
Are you for real?

If I recall you were part of the group that called Ovechkin Overrated? Well you said if Crosby is then Oveckin is!!

The Guy who said "Crosby isn't Gretzky great" and therefore said he's overrated???

That being said, EVERY NHL player to every play the game is overrated, because there aren't many, if any, that were/are or will ever be Gretzky great.

Do I really have to waste my time pointing out the reasons why Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin are NOT overrated in the game of Hockey or the HOBBY.

This is in the HOBBY section of the site no?
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You aren't understanding the logic of the Crosby vs. Gretzky statement. Not all players are said to be a generational talent, and a player destined to be the greatest of all time. Crosby is, and has been, even by Gretzky himself.
What I am saying is that Crosby IS an exceptional talent, he IS amazing, but he IS NOT the singular dominant player in the game today, he is not head and shoulders above every other player in the league, the way Gretzky was, and the way many people said Crosby would be, and in the minds of some people, is.
 
SmythFan94 said:
Jarome Iginla. Good hockey player. Not great. Definetly should not be a Captain.
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Iginla IS one of the best players and captains in the NHL. Your statement makes it very clear that you have never watched him play because even when he has an off night he is fantastic. True ignorance in this thread I am officially done with this one.
 
I almost turned this thread away when I saw as the first post; someone had the guts to say Sakic..... joking right? I think all the points have been made about him already in this thread so no need to go on

Basically I see this thread as pointless.. there is every angle to criticizing a player and defend them.

I see good points on either side for the Luongo thing.. me being a Vancouver fan, I can't be optimistic about it. And neither can Boston fans about Kessel, or Flames fans about Iginla and so forth.

Basically when I hear the word "overrated", I'm thinking high draft picks that get into the NHL, and evidently were overrated because they are not performing they way we expect them to be.
 
Its kinda funny who some people think are over-rated. There is always someone who will disagree with you. :)

My only comment is how the heck is Marc Savard over-rated?? Ive only watched him this year in Boston, but for the time Ive watched him he is worth MUCH more than the $4 mil he gets a season. That guy is an elite assist machine and he chips in with some very large goals. He does take the occassional stupid penalty, but he fits right in with the rest of the Bruins in that dept haha.

Josh
 
hatzosman6 said:
Brodeur, Turco, Lundqvist, Osgood, Nabokov, Kiprusoff, Price, Giguere, Miller, DiPietro, and arguably on par with Vokoun, LeClaire, Hasek, Huet. And I'll defer to Chris's argument on team impact rather than simply staring at the stats until they make sense.
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Tell you what, Andy. Let's say you're the GM of Los Angeles. You get a phone call from Vancouver and a phone call from Buffalo and then one from NY Islanders. They say that Luongo, Miller and DiPietro are available. Who would YOU take? Add Vokoun, Leclaire, Hasek, Huet and even add in Osgood & Price. You'd be a fool not to take Luongo.

Last year I said Luongo was top two or three in the league. This year I called him top 5. While his stats don't look great in comparison to ALL the goalies in the league (i.e. Ty Conlin is #2 in Save %age but only played 33 games - not comparable), sort the stats to goalies who played 65+ games. Luongo is #6 in wins, #4 in Goals Against, #5 in shots-against, #3 in Save %age and #3 in Shutouts. So much for your logic.


As for the comments on Sakic & Iginla? Wow guys... watch more hockey. ANY team would welcome Iginla in a heartbeat, and Sakic's value is ridiculously high.


My thoughts for overrated? Chris Pronger. May consider him top 5 D in the league... but his boneheadedness overshadows his skill.
 
I'm getting a good chuckle outta this thread....I would of never guessed it would be 4 pages long after the 1st two choices...Sakic and Luongo!! This is hilarious!! I think I'm going to pour myself a drink!!

Ok I sat back down onthe computer here and I can't believe what names are gettting tossed around still!!!

Iginla...Crosby...Ovechkin...Richards??
Are you guys serious....this has to be a joke doesn't it?

all I can say is WOW!!!!!!
 
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Thomas and Backstrom(Goalie) are both terrible though somehow people see otherwise. I'm guessing they watch the stats rather than the games they play in. I can elaborate if need be.
 
vegaspuck said:
All I'm saying is I've seen goaltending carry worse teams than Vancouver to the playoffs and beyond. Hexy did it in the 80's with Philly, Beezer and Hasek did it with Florida and Buffalo in the 90's, and I'm yet to see the same result with Luongo on any of his teams and he gets way more praise and hobby love than any of those guys.

Maybe if Giguere, Kipper and Turco grew their hair out and used a barrel of oil before every game, they'd get the same respect. But for a guy that's always touted as "top 3 in the league", he sure hasn't done a lot to get his teams where teams normally go with a top 3 goaltender in the league. Brodeur, Nabokov and Lundqvist were top three this year. Look where their teams ended up after the 82nd game.
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So... because he didn't take Florida into the playoffs, or the Canucks deeper into the playoffs last year, he's overrated? I'd rather rate a goalie on his meaning to his team than a playoff run. Yes, playoff success is important, but he's 29 with lots more years ahead of him.
 
leafs4_cup said:
I have always thought Marian Hossa was overrated...I have no love for guys that disappear in the playoffs.

I also agree with Marc Savard being overrated.
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I can dig Hossa being overrated, but Savard?

Cmon, before this year NO ONE publically gave him ANY love. He has been a solid forward and playmaker for many years. If anything he is very underrated, much like Adam Oates was.

My picks for most over-rated players would have to be these gents:

Darcy Tucker - Hailed as a super-hero here in Leafs country, he doesn't posses scoring touch he once did. He makes dumb decisions and takes stupid penalties

Zdeno Chara - He doesn't have much going for him other than his size and shot. If he was 6'0, he'd be roadtripping around the AHL or ECHL or playing back in Slovakia.

Phil Kessel - Someone mentioned him earlier but I can't really dump on him too much. He's a good kid and just has had a string of bad luck with personal and health problems. I'm sure in a few years he'll be a star, it's just at the price his The Cup RCs are fetching now, you'd think he's the next Lafleur or something.

Cristobal Huet - Just pure bitterness here :p . Kolzig is my favourite netminder, and Huet took his spot.

Cheers!
 
vegaspuck said:
To be called a top 5 goalie in the entire league, I'd say getting to the playoffs and playoff success should be a HUGE part in qualifying a goalie. Why else is he guarding the city as his playoff commercial suggests? If you want to say he's important to the team, then he's a top five goalie in that organization....not in the league.
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So winning 47 games in a year, matching a 35 year old record, doesn't mean anything? If playoff success is such a HUGE part, why isn't Roloson in the top 5? What about Emery? Yes, I'm being facetious.
 
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