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What do you think of your start so far? Only dressing 17 players? giving up 14 goals in 3 games? I hate to say it like this, but I am not surprised. I see them finishing last in the division.

Any Devils fans have an idea how they are going to get out of this mess?
 
Only way will be to find a way to move contracts, or stash em in the minors.

What'll be worse is when Parise needs an extension. He will not come cheap, and there will be teams with cap space.
 
Yeah it has been pretty tough to watch, that's for sure.

Brodeur has looked shaky, Hedberg has looked juvenile... Kovalchuk and Parise have both been invisible.

After their 7-2 drubbing at the hands of Washington (beast of the East IMO), "Captain" Jamie Langenbrunner was quoted as saying: "These games happen." Clearly in addition to cap space, the problem is leadership. Langenbrunner doesn't have it, and I for one have never been sold on him since he took the "C" right off of Elias's chest.

Their best player has been the ethereal Jason Arnott who hasn't been able to compensate for the fact that he has been out there with the likes of Rod Pelley and David Clarkson - both of whom have hands of stone. When Elias is flanking him, there seems to be light at the end of the tunnel.

The defense has just looked ridiculous at times. It took them two periods against Dallas on Friday to revert back to the old habit of "running around" in their own zone, which undoubtedly caused a lot of nausea at the Prudential Centre over the weekend. There were bound to be some growing pains with a younger, less experienced defense, but at present, Bryce Salvador is faking an injury to help with the cap situation (as if he really has a concussion) and Volchenkov, who was counted on to block shots, is sidelined after having done just that... with his face.

So what is the solution?

The Devils will dress a whopping sixteen players for tomorrow's game against Buffalo.

The best case scenario would be one of two things:

1) Brian Rolston does indeed have a sports hernia or some other serious but hopefully not life/career threatening injury that will land him on LTIR. I'm sure Lou will be waiting at his bedside with a baseball bat if he even thinks of getting up to put on a pair of skates...

2) Jamie Langenbrunner, who will most definitely not be brought back next season anyway, will be shipped out of town. His dollars could then be used to give Matias Tedenby and Jacob Josefson a shot with the big club. I have had enough of Langenbrunner and his "no can do" attitude, and after watching three straight playoff flops, the axe should fall first on the leader who didn't get the job done, and never really seemed to care, anyway. Where's the fire, where is the "if we don't win, we don't deserve to wear the uniform!!!" attitude that so many captains around the league have?! ... the Devils share is hanging in the rafters alongside a #4 sweater.

I wanted Kovalchuk to remain a Devil in a bad way this offseason, but here is a summary of what his acquisition has cost the franchise so far:

Trade:

1st round pick, Johnny Oduya, Nicklas Bergfors, Patrice Cormier

Contract:

$100 million

Penalty:

$3 million, 1st, 3rd round picks

Cap problems:

Bryce Salvador, delay of NHL debuts of coveted prospects Tedenby/Josefson, Dean MacAmmond (amazing depth player), Mike Motteau (terrible but would have played for nothing if the Devils could have found space for him)... etc!

Not to mention the apparent hit that the Devils reputation has taken - the fact that this thread exists at all is a testament to the hatred that the entire league nay the entire pro sports world has developed for the Devils, who used to so casually fly under the radar. Now, people associate the Devils jersey with greed, drama and treachery, and that's the biggest problem to come out of all of this... so far.
 
You mean this isnt NHL 2K11? I cant turn lines change off? I was under the assumption that Kovy could play 60 minutes a game. Wheres that darn reset button.

:|

Getting Kovy isnt so much the problem, it was the right move. It was all the extra baggage they took on for no reason. Arnott Rolston and Volchenkov namely. Now Volch I can see, he is a beast. But they paid a pretty penny when they were already thinking of getting kovy back.
 
You mean this isnt NHL 2K11? I cant turn lines change off? I was under the assumption that Kovy could play 60 minutes a game. Wheres that darn reset button.

:|

Getting Kovy isnt so much the problem, it was the right move. It was all the extra baggage they took on for no reason. Arnott Rolston and Volchenkov namely. Now Volch I can see, he is a beast. But they paid a pretty penny when they were already thinking of getting kovy back.

I don't see Arnott or Volch as baggage... NJ was painfully weak down the middle last season (of course we know now that they are painfully weak everywhere) and Arnott is a great 2nd line center behind Zajac. Volchenkov was probably the best free agent defenseman available in terms of positional stability... The Rolston contract, though, is one of the stupidest deals issued post-lockout.

Funny you mention NHL 11 - it is near impossible to even sign Kovalchuk to a contract in the game, let alone real life.

The other thing about Arnott is that he's essentially a band-aid solution - he's a 4.5 mill hit for this season and then he's gone... freeing up money for Parise or more importantly at this point, 2 or 3 players who can fill out a roster...

Nobody currently involved in this discussion probably cares, but an interesting fact - Friday's game was the first time that Brodeur's mom ever watched him play in the NHL.
 
Not to mention the apparent hit that the Devils reputation has taken - the fact that this thread exists at all is a testament to the hatred that the entire league nay the entire pro sports world has developed for the Devils, who used to so casually fly under the radar. Now, people associate the Devils jersey with greed, drama and treachery, and that's the biggest problem to come out of all of this... so far.


I hate the Devils for their past wrongs they have committed on my Flyers, lol. I am not sure this is a matter of "hatred" because of greed or anything like that. I just asked because it is not as if this was caused by a freak injury or something completely unforeseeable. They knew this was going to happen in August. They knew that if they signed Kovalchuk, they would need to unload salary, a lot of it. And they have not done it.

On top of that, I am on record here as thinking the Kovalchuk signing would be nothing but bad for the Devils. I am not a big league GM and I feel it was painfully obvious that Kovalchuk was a bad idea, especially at that price point. If I can see it, why cant a big league GM?

If I were a Devils fan, I would be irate. Why scrap a system that has been nothing but successful for a player who has been nothing but unsuccessful? Just my opinion, thats all.
 
Getting Kovy isnt so much the problem, it was the right move. It was all the extra baggage they took on for no reason. Arnott Rolston and Volchenkov namely. Now Volch I can see, he is a beast. But they paid a pretty penny when they were already thinking of getting kovy back.

I think getting Kovy is pretty much the ONLY problem. NJDEVILS outlined pretty well what it has cost the franchise. Volchenkov was a good signing, his absence in Ottawa is in my opinion hurting the sens quite a bit. Arnott although older is a good mentor for the likes of Zajac and Parise, I don't think you can say the same for Kovy... Not to mention the huge problems his ridiculous contract is causing them concerning the cap.
 
Too early to panic or jump ship yet.
Although I'm a fan of Kovy's, I'm not a fan of his contract and what it does for the Devils cap space.
I have faith in Lou and I'm sure he'll work his magic and all will be right in Devilsland. (The Rock, Hell, The Swamp, I miss the swamp.)
 
Yup,
Had a feeling this would happen
The devils were below 500 after the deadline last year and got man handled by Philly
One marty retires this team could be basement dwellers for a long while
 
Kovalchuk displayed why he was signed to said contract last night in Overtime with the winner which came out of a cannon. The shorthanded Devils had the first 14 shots on goal as well.

A status update - Brian Rolston is on LTIR for at least six weeks with sports hernia surgery, and Mark Fraser, who has a salary of over 1MM is headed there for 8 weeks with a broken hand. The cap is not a factor for now and several players have been called up.

The Devils haven't missed the playoffs since 1996, so I'm not about to call them "bottom dwellers" just yet - I firmly believe that the Kovy signing was in preparation for Brodeur retiring in a couple/few years, as the entire focus of the franchise will shift to the two gunslingers up front.

It will be fun to see how this plays out, and I'm sure at least a few of the Devils are motivated by the fact that the world seems to be rooting for them to fail... hopefully Kovalchuk is one of them!

For those keeping track at home, Kovalchuk has three points since signing his new deal, so $33.333MM per point... a bargain when you consider the payment plan.
 
While I don't think their going to challenge for the division lead or anything, I think it's too early to throw in the towel on their season. Parise and Kovalchuk will find the net sooner or later, and Marty is too good to be 'off' for long.
 
Yup,
Had a feeling this would happen
The devils were below 500 after the deadline last year and got man handled by Philly
One marty retires this team could be basement dwellers for a long while

The devils have had a few good players in the net that they have kept in the minors for way too long...Clemmenson was a great example and there have been a few that decided that it was better to play back overseas than sit the pine behind Marty (name any Devils goalie draft pick after 93 not named Clemmenson).

The Devils will be like the Flyers with a rotating goaltending group for years after Marty retires. They'd be smart and either trade for a very good minor league prospect goalie or pick up a 1st round goalie in the next few years to deveolp.
 
Yup,
Had a feeling this would happen
The devils were below 500 after the deadline last year and got man handled by Philly
One marty retires this team could be basement dwellers for a long while

like I said a few times once Marty is gone Kovy is gonna be back in Atlanta all over again
 
like I said a few times once Marty is gone Kovy is gonna be back in Atlanta all over again

Thats harsh:|

My friend and I were actually expecting them to pickup Kovy and someone like Niemi or Halak. I was quite surprised when they passed on them and stayed with old man river.
 
I am suprised a GM would let this happen...I could understand if it was the first year of the cap....but I too would be pretty upset if I was a Devils fan or if the pens were in the same boat. Hopefully they can make some deals that will at the very least allow them a full roster...even if they continue to lose or miss the playoffs the big picture is preventing injuries which I would think would be more likely with shortened bench...I would hope they could trade for either draft picks or prospects that won't add much to the cap
 

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