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Given the Stamkos contract situation, and pending RFAs in the next couple of years, I could see Yzerman just looking for a 1st and a prospect in return. Plus they draft very well.

There is some cap strategy involved in this as well. With Droiun suspended, I think they get some cap space.
 
Blues are looking for more scoring. Drouin doesn't solve that immediately, so trading Fabbri would be a lateral move. There were rumours of a bigger deal which involved Shattenkirk. But most likely that involved moving Kucherov, Killorn or Palat too. Given the uncertainty of Stamkos right now, TB wouldn't make that move because suddenly they've lost their depth on forward.

There was supposedly a slight chance of a goalie swap too. Bishop and Allen or Elliott, depending on how much cap space TB expected to have after July 1.

There's supposedly 7 teams interested, and the asking price is two top end prospects (at least one being a 1st round pick), which is pretty steep for a guy who basically has thrown a major temper tantrum. I've heard that a few teams that were interested have passed on the current asking price. So they may wait to see if the price goes down.

I see no pressure for Yzerman to make a trade, barring a major injury. The Bolts are currently in a playoff position, albeit super tight. And they could use up their remaining cap space to trade for a useful player in their playoff run.

IMO, I do not expect Drouin to be traded any time soon. Figuring out how to fit Stamkos long term is the priority right now. The next priority is figuring out how to fit Hedman in long term too. Filppula's contract is pretty heavy on the books and will probably be unloaded sooner than later.


**wrote this before reading that TB has offered Stamkos a $68M deal over 8 years ($8.5M/yr). See what happens now...

A bit off topic, but this is the plan that I see Tampa taking:

Based on my preliminary calculations and estimates, there is room for Stamkos at $10.5M per season, but it does depend what other players are willing to sign for too in the future.

End of this season, sign Stamkos to $10.5M, making him the highest paid player in the league (this is what his agent is asking for). I expect this deal to be done once the NHL announces next year's salary cap, which is usually the end of June. Sign Namestnikov to multi year deal @ $1.5M as RFA (who thanks Drouin for opening up this opportunity for him).

End of next season, sign RFAs Kucherov and Killorn to $3.5M multi year deals. Salaries will be at $70M with a UFA dman to sign to replace Coburn (possibly just a 1 year deal since Deangelo and Koekkoek could be given a shot in another year), unless Yzerman is able to unload Carle's or Garrison's contract.

Following season, trade Filppula for a draft pick to free up $5M in cap, sign Hedman to max 8 year deal at $6.5M per season. Re-sign Boyle to $2.5M deal. Give Brayden Point a shot if he continues to look good. Bishop and Vasilievski could still be a strong tandem, so Bishop could get a multi year deal at $6.5M, Vas @ $1.5M as RFA. That would put the salaries at $75.5M, with some room due to cap increases. A 4% increase in the next 2 years would put the cap at $77M.

The year after that, Kucherov would probably need a raise to $5M if he keeps producing at the current rate. However there will be $10.1M coming off the books from Carle and Garrison's contracts. Lots of room to sign some UFA dman that can legitimately play top 4 minutes.
 
Blues are looking for more scoring. Drouin doesn't solve that immediately, so trading Fabbri would be a lateral move. There were rumours of a bigger deal which involved Shattenkirk. But most likely that involved moving Kucherov, Killorn or Palat too. Given the uncertainty of Stamkos right now, TB wouldn't make that move because suddenly they've lost their depth on forward.

There was supposedly a slight chance of a goalie swap too. Bishop and Allen or Elliott, depending on how much cap space TB expected to have after July 1.

There's supposedly 7 teams interested, and the asking price is two top end prospects (at least one being a 1st round pick), which is pretty steep for a guy who basically has thrown a major temper tantrum. I've heard that a few teams that were interested have passed on the current asking price. So they may wait to see if the price goes down.

I see no pressure for Yzerman to make a trade, barring a major injury. The Bolts are currently in a playoff position, albeit super tight. And they could use up their remaining cap space to trade for a useful player in their playoff run.

IMO, I do not expect Drouin to be traded any time soon. Figuring out how to fit Stamkos long term is the priority right now. The next priority is figuring out how to fit Hedman in long term too. Filppula's contract is pretty heavy on the books and will probably be unloaded sooner than later.


**wrote this before reading that TB has offered Stamkos a $68M deal over 8 years ($8.5M/yr). See what happens now...

A bit off topic, but this is the plan that I see Tampa taking:

Based on my preliminary calculations and estimates, there is room for Stamkos at $10.5M per season, but it does depend what other players are willing to sign for too in the future.

End of this season, sign Stamkos to $10.5M, making him the highest paid player in the league (this is what his agent is asking for). I expect this deal to be done once the NHL announces next year's salary cap, which is usually the end of June. Sign Namestnikov to multi year deal @ $1.5M as RFA (who thanks Drouin for opening up this opportunity for him).

End of next season, sign RFAs Kucherov and Killorn to $3.5M multi year deals. Salaries will be at $70M with a UFA dman to sign to replace Coburn (possibly just a 1 year deal since Deangelo and Koekkoek could be given a shot in another year), unless Yzerman is able to unload Carle's or Garrison's contract.

Following season, trade Filppula for a draft pick to free up $5M in cap, sign Hedman to max 8 year deal at $6.5M per season. Re-sign Boyle to $2.5M deal. Give Brayden Point a shot if he continues to look good. Bishop and Vasilievski could still be a strong tandem, so Bishop could get a multi year deal at $6.5M, Vas @ $1.5M as RFA. That would put the salaries at $75.5M, with some room due to cap increases. A 4% increase in the next 2 years would put the cap at $77M.

The year after that, Kucherov would probably need a raise to $5M if he keeps producing at the current rate. However there will be $10.1M coming off the books from Carle and Garrison's contracts. Lots of room to sign some UFA dman that can legitimately play top 4 minutes.

This is a very well written and thought out post. Nicely done.
 
Hedman at 6.5/year. I don't think so.

More or less?

My reasoning. Doughty is making $7M, Karlsson is making $6.5M. Subban is making $9M. Hedman will be ufa at age 27. So if you give him the max 8 year deal, that will be $52M. That means when he's 35, the cap hit will be $6.5M.

However the structure of the contract could be:
7, 7, 8, 8, 7, 6.5, 4.5, 4.

Since his contract is up in 2 years, it does depend where the cap is going to be set at. If I was Yzerman, I would talking to both Stamkos and Hedman's agents, explaining that the goal is to win a Cup or two, and in the salary cap era, a few key players cannot eat up the majority of the salary. Basically you're asking the players to take less to win. A good GM and team will convince players to do so. Detroit did it for years, the Hawks did it for awhile.

If the cap does go up to $77M when Hedman is a UFA, then if Yzerman wants to max out his cap, Hedman can make up to $8M/year. But that would mean Hedman would be getting paid $9.5M at his peak, and $5.5M when he's turning 35. The point of giving a max term contract is to save some cap space. If you give a huge AAV at max term contract, then the contract becomes immovable and huge buyout hit later.

I'm not a fan of Kopitar's contract because his salary when he's 35 is $7M. Stamkos is 3 years younger, so he'll be 32 when he plays the 8th year of his contract, so there's less risk of getting burned on a gargantuan contract.

If Stamkos takes less money, then there could be more for Hedman. But hopefully, it would set the team atmosphere, that even the captain and superstar player is willing to take less money for the team to win. Hedman may follow suit. Hedman has not shown any indication that he is the type of player that wants superstar money and has to be one of the top paid dmen in the league.

For me, the harder one to convince is Kucherov, to take a 2 year contract at a lower rate, and then pay him more later. If he does put up obscene numbers in the next couple of years, it'll cost $6M+ per year to re-sign him.

What ties Yzerman's hands for Hedman's contract is that Garrison and Carle have NTC's, so he will have to ask them to waive it. Filppula has a NMC, so technically, he could be buried in the minors, like how Bickell is for the Hawks. If he gets picked up on waivers, then it creates some cap room. But Filppula may have to be moved this year if Kucherov insists on a contract like Barkov's. Or it means there's less cash to spend on a replacement for Coburn. Tough to find a good top 6 d that will play for $3M/yr. Unless you're able to find a gem out of Europe or the KHL.

What would require a ton of trust, is if Hedman signs a one year extension now at $6M. Then he could be come a UFA when Garrison and Carle's contracts are up. Then giving him $7.5M-$8M AVV wouldn't be such a cap strap on the team.

If Hedman won't sign a 1 year deal, and Kucherov wants $5M+ AVV for his next deal, then trading Kucherov for Shattenkirk could make sense. But Shattenkirk is a UFA at the same time that Hedman is. So it would be better to trade for a d that has 3 years left on their contract. But Shattenkirk is a RHS, which is pretty hard to come by.
 
I think Stamkos does want to stay there. He just doesn't like the "business" side of hockey. He probably expected the deal to done by now. I'm sure Yzerman has assured him they will get a deal done that would make both sides happy and ensure the best chance of winning a cup.

Stamkos knows that it's a better chance to win the cup with Tampa, than with Toronto.

There is some posturing on Tampa/Yzerman's side, hoping that Stamkos will take less money. But I do not think they will let him go for nothing as a UFA. I do believe Tampa is prepared to give him $10.5M/year, but would prefer not to. Simple way to make space is to waive Filppula and send him to the minors, but that's a bit of a bush GM move, especially if Filppula doesn't agree to it.


With Drouin, right now, it's easy to sweep him under the rug. Drouin has no rights. Tampa holds all the power right now.

If everything works out for Yzerman/Tampa (signing Stamkos, Hedman to long term deals at decent AAV's, Kucherov signs a bridge contract, Palat and Killorn accept reasonable deals, Bishop and Vasilievsky too, they are able to find a decent 1 year RHS dman rental, and other prospects are continue to develop well, etc), then even if Yzerman gets nothing in return for Drouin, it would have little impact on the Lightning. So Yzerman has all the time in the world to wait for the right deal. Even the asking price now, does little to impact the team.
 
I really don't think Stamkos wants to stay there. Could be wrong but his body language gives him away. There is a lot of moving parts that need to line up in order for everything to go right with Tampa keeping everyone.


Back to Drouin I think for a player who Tampa has already shown to be disappointed with and talked down about they are asking too much in return. Between the coaches comments on Drouin and now Drouins actions he will remain with Tampa unless Yzerman lowers his asking price.

100% Agree!!! Its all about the body language...besides...Stamkos is a pro, he will say the right things...but notice he doesnt say them with any kind of enthusiasm? I think that cup final loss really put a hole in his heart man.

Drouin, Stevie Y better get rid of him as fast as he can....he hasnt done a damn thing in this league...his stock is cratering right now....be lucky to get a 2nd round pick out of him now and falling quickly.
 
100% Agree!!! Its all about the body language...besides...Stamkos is a pro, he will say the right things...but notice he doesnt say them with any kind of enthusiasm? I think that cup final loss really put a hole in his heart man.

Drouin, Stevie Y better get rid of him as fast as he can....he hasnt done a damn thing in this league...his stock is cratering right now....be lucky to get a 2nd round pick out of him now and falling quickly.

It's the NHL, when was the last time anyone not named Subban or Ovechkin said anything with any enthusiasm in the modern era? Hockey players are so damn boring and redundant.

If the Cup loss has anything to do with this, then the only viable option for Stamkos would be Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington or possibly the Rangers, otherwise where else would he go that has a better chance at winning the Cup in his lifetime?
 
Totally forgot about that.

But it makes Toronto look to be the least attractive place to sign from a net dollar perspective, by quite a bit.

I'm not sure what teams have the cap space for a $10M contract beginning next year. I'm guessing Yzerman analysed all teams that would could be interested in signing Stamkos, and looked at what's the best they could possibly offer. The $8.5M/yr offer, after tax, is more than a $10.5M/yr offer from Toronto. Plus Tampa can give an 8th year.

I still think Stamkos wants Toews/Kane type dollars, but those guys got the big contract after they won some cups. Stamkos hasn't won anything yet and hasn't been exactly dominant in the playoffs either.

The question is, on paper, does Stamkos want to be the highest paid player, regardless of taxes? The current offer pretty much is asking "this is more than what you will get as a UFA, so are there any other issues?"

I'm not sure if they can write in bonuses that kick in based on depth of the playoff run.
 
Forgotten in all this is the fact that Stamkos has a no-movement clause, so he would have to agree to any trade, or refuse it, if there really is bad blood that has been speculated. He doesn't even have to submit a list of teams to Yzerman he if doesn't want to. Don Meehan is not known for bending much in player negotiations, so it is possible this may get ugly, and Tampa would be screwed losing him to FA on July 1st. Not in his best interest to lowball him, and risk getting nothing in return.
 
Blues are looking for more scoring. Drouin doesn't solve that immediately, so trading Fabbri would be a lateral move. There were rumours of a bigger deal which involved Shattenkirk. But most likely that involved moving Kucherov, Killorn or Palat too. Given the uncertainty of Stamkos right now, TB wouldn't make that move because suddenly they've lost their depth on forward.

There was supposedly a slight chance of a goalie swap too. Bishop and Allen or Elliott, depending on how much cap space TB expected to have after July 1.

There's supposedly 7 teams interested, and the asking price is two top end prospects (at least one being a 1st round pick), which is pretty steep for a guy who basically has thrown a major temper tantrum. I've heard that a few teams that were interested have passed on the current asking price. So they may wait to see if the price goes down.

I see no pressure for Yzerman to make a trade, barring a major injury. The Bolts are currently in a playoff position, albeit super tight. And they could use up their remaining cap space to trade for a useful player in their playoff run.

IMO, I do not expect Drouin to be traded any time soon. Figuring out how to fit Stamkos long term is the priority right now. The next priority is figuring out how to fit Hedman in long term too. Filppula's contract is pretty heavy on the books and will probably be unloaded sooner than later.


**wrote this before reading that TB has offered Stamkos a $68M deal over 8 years ($8.5M/yr). See what happens now...

A bit off topic, but this is the plan that I see Tampa taking:

Based on my preliminary calculations and estimates, there is room for Stamkos at $10.5M per season, but it does depend what other players are willing to sign for too in the future.

End of this season, sign Stamkos to $10.5M, making him the highest paid player in the league (this is what his agent is asking for). I expect this deal to be done once the NHL announces next year's salary cap, which is usually the end of June. Sign Namestnikov to multi year deal @ $1.5M as RFA (who thanks Drouin for opening up this opportunity for him).

End of next season, sign RFAs Kucherov and Killorn to $3.5M multi year deals. Salaries will be at $70M with a UFA dman to sign to replace Coburn (possibly just a 1 year deal since Deangelo and Koekkoek could be given a shot in another year), unless Yzerman is able to unload Carle's or Garrison's contract.

Following season, trade Filppula for a draft pick to free up $5M in cap, sign Hedman to max 8 year deal at $6.5M per season. Re-sign Boyle to $2.5M deal. Give Brayden Point a shot if he continues to look good. Bishop and Vasilievski could still be a strong tandem, so Bishop could get a multi year deal at $6.5M, Vas @ $1.5M as RFA. That would put the salaries at $75.5M, with some room due to cap increases. A 4% increase in the next 2 years would put the cap at $77M.

The year after that, Kucherov would probably need a raise to $5M if he keeps producing at the current rate. However there will be $10.1M coming off the books from Carle and Garrison's contracts. Lots of room to sign some UFA dman that can legitimately play top 4 minutes.

I have to say if I have to write a financial paper that is digestible by others, yourself and number9ne are on speed dial.
As others have already said.. well done and super articulated.
 
I have to say if I have to write a financial paper that is digestible by others, yourself and number9ne are on speed dial.
As others have already said.. well done and super articulated.

lol...thanks ;)

If you want me to give my 2 cents on any other team's cap/roster/contract situation, let me know. I enjoy it. lol

Forgotten in all this is the fact that Stamkos has a no-movement clause, so he would have to agree to any trade, or refuse it, if there really is bad blood that has been speculated. He doesn't even have to submit a list of teams to Yzerman he if doesn't want to. Don Meehan is not known for bending much in player negotiations, so it is possible this may get ugly, and Tampa would be screwed losing him to FA on July 1st. Not in his best interest to lowball him, and risk getting nothing in return.

I haven't heard/seen anything that would cause Stamkos to think that Tampa/Yzerman don't want him or are negotiating in bad faith. It makes sense for an organization to want to get good value, without compromising it's chances to win a Cup.

IMO, I don't think the "supposed" offer is a low ball offer. Based on after tax numbers and which teams would legitimately give Stamkos a UFA offer, the initial offer could be the best that Stamkos is going to receive.

Now if I look at from the agent/player's POV, Stamkos should wait until the projected numbers for the salary cap come in (last week of June). The max salary he can get is 15% of the cap. Currently, it is at $71.4M, which means the max contract is $10.71M. If the cap is announce to go up to $74M, Stamkos could get up to $11.1M. Kane and Toews signed extensions at the beginning of the season, and went a bit more conservatively with $70M as the salary cap for future years (cap was at $69M).

So the hold up may not be strictly on Tampa's end. There could be negotiating tactics where the agent says give Stamkos a Toews/Kane type contract now, or 15% of what the cap max will be at the end of June.

This could be a win-win scenario for both parties. If the cap does go up, then there's more room to re-sign other players, and Stamkos becomes the highest paid player in the league.

What would totally help both parties is a deep playoff run. Then the team makes money, which it would have no problem passing onto the key players.

If the cap goes up to $74M, then Kucherov could be signed for $3M-$3.5M, which is a hefty raise from $711,666. Kucherov could sign a two year deal so that he gets arbitration rights after. If it wasn't for Hedman's contract ending, Kucherov would be receiving a long term deal like Barkov, which would include a couple of UFA years.

If the following year, the cap goes up another 4%, to $77M, then Tampa has room to sign Hedman to a multi year deal with and AAV of $7M! So I don't think Hedman is going anywhere either.

One other thing I would inquire, if I was Yzerman, what would it cost to get Demers out of Dallas. RHS, UFA, 27, making $2.2M.
 
lol...thanks ;)

If you want me to give my 2 cents on any other team's cap/roster/contract situation, let me know. I enjoy it. lol



I haven't heard/seen anything that would cause Stamkos to think that Tampa/Yzerman don't want him or are negotiating in bad faith. It makes sense for an organization to want to get good value, without compromising it's chances to win a Cup.

IMO, I don't think the "supposed" offer is a low ball offer. Based on after tax numbers and which teams would legitimately give Stamkos a UFA offer, the initial offer could be the best that Stamkos is going to receive.

Now if I look at from the agent/player's POV, Stamkos should wait until the projected numbers for the salary cap come in (last week of June). The max salary he can get is 15% of the cap. Currently, it is at $71.4M, which means the max contract is $10.71M. If the cap is announce to go up to $74M, Stamkos could get up to $11.1M. Kane and Toews signed extensions at the beginning of the season, and went a bit more conservatively with $70M as the salary cap for future years (cap was at $69M).

So the hold up may not be strictly on Tampa's end. There could be negotiating tactics where the agent says give Stamkos a Toews/Kane type contract now, or 15% of what the cap max will be at the end of June.

This could be a win-win scenario for both parties. If the cap does go up, then there's more room to re-sign other players, and Stamkos becomes the highest paid player in the league.

What would totally help both parties is a deep playoff run. Then the team makes money, which it would have no problem passing onto the key players.

If the cap goes up to $74M, then Kucherov could be signed for $3M-$3.5M, which is a hefty raise from $711,666. Kucherov could sign a two year deal so that he gets arbitration rights after. If it wasn't for Hedman's contract ending, Kucherov would be receiving a long term deal like Barkov, which would include a couple of UFA years.

If the following year, the cap goes up another 4%, to $77M, then Tampa has room to sign Hedman to a multi year deal with and AAV of $7M! So I don't think Hedman is going anywhere either.

If it is true, the offer is still one million less than Ovechkin, and Malkin, and two million less than Toews, and Kane make. With the cap supposedly going up, it is insulting, IMO. Money, and taxes are a huge part of it all, no doubt, but these guys also have big egos, and so do player agents like Meehan. Too many things going on down there the past while to suggest the relationship is peachy between player, and management. Then there's the coach who does not use Stamkos down by one goal, with the goalie out in the last minute of the game? There is a problem there, and if your star doesn't get along with the coach, and you are keeping the coach, not a good scenario.

We obviously don't know the whole story, and all the reasons, but these reports have been surfacing for a while. I hope it's all BS, and he signs there, and they compete for a cup soon, but my gut also thinks he wants to play in Toronto, and I can also wish for that to happen. It would be their first real star franchise player in decades, should it happen.

This is my opinion. Not saying I'm right, but that is what I feel right now, and until he re-ups with Tampa, I'm going with he may walk unless Yzerman gets generous soon.
 
Troy, I'd recommend that you read the article somebody linked above regarding the taxation benefits Stamkos would get and how that cuts into the raw numbers. I had never looked at things that way and it gave me a whole new perspective on why the contract offered is pretty reasonable after all.
 
I cant believe he/we are talking about him being the highest paid player in hockey. Does anyone believe he is the best in hockey? While I do believe he is one of the best, he is not the best. Where/when do these guys start thinking they are gods gift to the world? I hate these situations. When I really sit down and think about the money anyone makes to play a God damned GAME I get upset. F@#K me, I made a commitment to $20 a month donation to the BC cancer society tonight and I really had to think "Can I afford this?" These guys are making upwards of $10 mil a year and whining about it? F@#K off. Maybe its the scotch talking but I just wish they (players/owners/big business in general) could grab some perspective. S@#t like this is what is wrong with society.
 
If it is true, the offer is still one million less than Ovechkin, and Malkin, and two million less than Toews, and Kane make. With the cap supposedly going up, it is insulting, IMO. Money, and taxes are a huge part of it all, no doubt, but these guys also have big egos, and so do player agents like Meehan. Too many things going on down there the past while to suggest the relationship is peachy between player, and management. Then there's the coach who does not use Stamkos down by one goal, with the goalie out in the last minute of the game? There is a problem there, and if your star doesn't get along with the coach, and you are keeping the coach, not a good scenario.

We obviously don't know the whole story, and all the reasons, but these reports have been surfacing for a while. I hope it's all BS, and he signs there, and they compete for a cup soon, but my gut also thinks he wants to play in Toronto, and I can also wish for that to happen. It would be their first real star franchise player in decades, should it happen.

This is my opinion. Not saying I'm right, but that is what I feel right now, and until he re-ups with Tampa, I'm going with he may walk unless Yzerman gets generous soon.

IMO, it's all part of negotiation. You can't have thin skin when it comes to contract discussions.

Meehan has stated that Stamkos should be the highest paid player in the league. Now should Yzerman get insulted with that?

As I stated before, the contract offer is to help reach an agreement. If it's purely just about the net take home pay, then the $8.5M/yr contract would already be signed. But it's a starting point, and is good because it addresses one issue.

So what are the other issues?

Let's go back to being the highest paid player in the league. Yzerman would ask, "Why do you think your client should be the highest paid player in the league? Please state your case and with concrete examples?"

Stamkos has not won a Cup, didn't lead the team last year in the playoffs, and is currently 2nd in team scoring.

Then there could be a discussion about Stamkos' desire to win a Cup with Tampa. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Everyone knows that you need to have cap friendly contracts to be a contender for the Cup. One player cannot win it for you. If Stamkos had already won 2 Cups, then I would think maybe he's just looking to get paid, but this isn't that scenario.

I don't believe there is a contending team that has $11M of cap available. Even if they were willing to blow out contracts for nothing, then the team is no longer a contender. If you anyone can list one out, I'm all ears.

Does Stamkos want to become the next Phil Kessel in TO? He'll get paid top dollar, handcuff the team for the next 7 years so they can't get any decent support for him, and face the press everyday who will blame his gargantuan contract for not being able to win a Cup.
 
I cant believe he/we are talking about him being the highest paid player in hockey. Does anyone believe he is the best in hockey? While I do believe he is one of the best, he is not the best. Where/when do these guys start thinking they are gods gift to the world? I hate these situations. When I really sit down and think about the money anyone makes to play a God damned GAME I get upset. F@#K me, I made a commitment to $20 a month donation to the BC cancer society tonight and I really had to think "Can I afford this?" These guys are making upwards of $10 mil a year and whining about it? F@#K off. Maybe its the scotch talking but I just wish they (players/owners/big business in general) could grab some perspective. S@#t like this is what is wrong with society.

total tangent, but the amount of money that was spent to watch Star Wars Ep. 7 was absolutely ridiculous. It was more money than the GDP of some small countries.
 
Ok...just for fun, let's look at the Leaf's situation if they are successful in signing Stamkos, which implies that Leafs want to contend for a cup within a few years. So money will be spent going after UFA players to complement Stamkos.

Stamkos will demand $11M/yr for 7 years.

Rielly is a RFA. Bridge contract. $3M for 2 years so he can get arbitration rights. If Leafs believe he is the real deal, then 6 year deal @ $5.5M to get 2 years of UFA.

Kadri gets a raise to $5M/yr for a few years. If you believe Reimer is the #1, then you'll have to re-sign him at $4.5M, and move Bernier to free up some cash. Not a lot of great UFA goalies options.

That would be 16 players with a cap total of $55M, leaving $19M to acquire players.

Stamkos, ?, ?
Bozak, Lupul, Kadri,
Komarov, Winnik, ?
Leivo, Holland, ?
?

Phaneuf, Rielly
Gardiner, ?
Hunwick, Marincin
Corrado

Reimer
Sparks

Two top line forwards to play with Stamkos will cost no less than $10M. The remaining bottom 6 players will cost $4M. A top 4 dman will be about $4.5M, leaving $500k in cap. Not going to turn Marner, Kapanen, Nylander, or this year's top pick into grinders on the bottom 6.

Phaneuf has a NTC and costs $7M/year until 2021. Lupul and Bozak have NMC and have 2 more years left on their contracts. These 3 aren't even close to being considered good deals for their cap hits.

So let's assume there's $15M to be spent on 2 top line forwards and 1 top 4 d.

IMO, Byfuglien is going to be asking for $6M/year.

For forwards, there Ladd, who is making $4.4M this year, so let's say $5.5M. Then that only leaves $3.5M for a top line RW??

Or, give Okposo and Ladd, $10.5M/yr combined. $4.5M/yr might get you Hamhuis type d.

Let's say that all works out. Does anyone really believe that that team is a cup contender? Fast forward 3 more years, and how does the team look then?

So will Stamkos take less net money for a lesser chance at winning a cup? Does he want the crushing pressure from the T.O. media every night?

I can see the Leafs being interested in Stamkos, but I'm not so sure if the asking price is $11M/yr. Even less so if they win the Matthews sweepstakes.

Realistically, the only team that I can see that has a legit chance of signing Stamkos, is Florida. Net tax savings the same, not many huge long term contracts, not many NTC/NMC contracts, and lots of cap space free up this coming year. But does Florida want to spend that kind of money on a player given their gate draw absolutely sucks. A lot of team have internal caps. It is a business in the end for these owners, and they're looking for the maximum profit.

Now back to Tampa if Stamkos walks, they'll have $11M of cap to sign Byfuglien and Backes. The triplets become the top line. Backes provides grit, 2 way play, and Byfuglien give them size, intimidation, and a shot from the back end. Trade Drouin or 1st round pick at the 2017 trade deadline for a UFA rental (Alex Steen?). You wouldn't have to unload Filppula's contract (and let it naturally run out), but maybe unload Garrison's (since you have Buff), to re-sign Hedman.
 

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