UFC 100 on July 11

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Iceman said:
Simple. His four UFC fights are among the top 10 highest PPV buys in company history. He's a draw pure and simple.
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yes, i figured that. however, if i were gsp, henderson or even mir who had way more experience i would be p'd off. regardless of the crowd lesnar draws 4-5 fights does not warrant top salary.
 
Was really looking forward to watching this card but the GF decided to throw me a surprise birthday party instead.

Glad to see GSP and Lesnar get the wins.
 
I think Bisping can now eat the chip that he has on his shoulder.

I think Mir may have just lost his modeling contract.

I am wonder who bleed all over the ring in the prelimps.

You can not completely fault Hendo for giving that last to Bisping after he was knocked out, that should have never happened if the guy in the stripes got in there asap. Some goes for the extra 9 shots Mir got to his hamburger face before Herb Dean realized the fight was over. Time to retrain some of these referees before some gets hurt bad. Can then not tell when some one gets knocked out on their feet that if they smash the back of their head on the mat that it is over.
 
Mack said:
I am wonder who bleed all over the ring in the prelimps.
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It was Danzig...
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Turtlelo said:
Watch Belfort VS Lindland from Affliction in January of this year. Lindland made Bisping look like nothing.
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Most brutal looking KO I have ever seen.

canucksfreak19 said:
On cbssports Denny Burkholder mentions that more than Lesnar's lack of class the bigger threat to MMA are "dangerous cheap shots after the buzzer or vicious elbows to a clearly unconscious opponent. You know, like Dan Henderson landed on Michael Bisping on Saturday. Well-respected, soft-spoken Dan Henderson not only took a measured cheap shot on a motionless opponent, but he largely got away with it, uncriticized. Sure, the ref could have stopped it earlier. But Henderson's been around MMA forever. You think he didn't know Bisping was out cold?"

Henderson's late hit reminded me a lot of Rampage continuing to throw after Wanderlei was clearly out in December. I think that these are classless; punk actions by those two; and that the only reason that Rampage didn't and Henderson won't (he actually won Knockout of the Night; and 100K) is because of who they are. If those actions were perpetrated by a relative newcomer they would have been suspended or fired.
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Should Hendo have stopped? Probably, yet how many times have we seen a fight not called by the ref and the guy got back up and continued to fight. As a fighter you keep fighting until a bell rings, or a ref stops you. The ref in that fight totally dropped the ball in my opinion. Rampage I think was being held already when he continued to throw, he SHOULD have been in trouble. Didn't Babalu do that with a submission, and was fired?
 
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2fnlo said:
Should Hendo have stopped? Probably, yet how many times have we seen a fight not called by the ref and the guy got back up and continued to fight. As a fighter you keep fighting until a bell rings, or a ref stops you. The ref in that fight totally dropped the ball in my opinion. Rampage I think was being held already when he continued to throw, he SHOULD have been in trouble. Didn't Babalu do that with a submission, and was fired?
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Exactly, the rule is you keep going until the ref stops you. Rampage was being held while he was throwing those extra hits, but Yves was only holding him, he wasn't trying to pull him back. The correct thing for Lavine to do was to get in between both fighters as soon as he felt Wandy was out and cover him. he shouldn't have tried to pull Quinton off from behind.

Mazzagati's stoppage of the first Mir/Lesnar fight was terrible! Brock tapped on Mir two times, Mazzagatti just stood there and looked like he was more concerned about his own mustache, and Brock was forced to tap again. IMO, Steve should have been disciplined for that.

Babalou held the choke way too long on David Heath. If I remember right, he was fined $20,000 by the Athletic Commission, and the UFC fired him.
 
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canucksfreak19 said:
Henderson's late hit reminded me a lot of Rampage continuing to throw after Wanderlei was clearly out in December. I think that these are classless; punk actions by those two; and that the only reason that Rampage didn't and Henderson won't (he actually won Knockout of the Night; and 100K) is because of who they are. If those actions were perpetrated by a relative newcomer they would have been suspended or fired.
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Something tells me you have never been in a fight......
 
canucksfreak19 said:
On cbssports Denny Burkholder mentions that more than Lesnar's lack of class the bigger threat to MMA are "dangerous cheap shots after the buzzer or vicious elbows to a clearly unconscious opponent. You know, like Dan Henderson landed on Michael Bisping on Saturday. Well-respected, soft-spoken Dan Henderson not only took a measured cheap shot on a motionless opponent, but he largely got away with it, uncriticized. Sure, the ref could have stopped it earlier. But Henderson's been around MMA forever. You think he didn't know Bisping was out cold?"

Henderson's late hit reminded me a lot of Rampage continuing to throw after Wanderlei was clearly out in December. I think that these are classless; punk actions by those two; and that the only reason that Rampage didn't and Henderson won't (he actually won Knockout of the Night; and 100K) is because of who they are. If those actions were perpetrated by a relative newcomer they would have been suspended or fired.
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You can't compare the Rampage and Henderson fights. Henderson hit Bisping and as soon as he hit the ground, jumped on him and hit him one more time before the ref jumped in and stopped it. Rampage hit Wanderlei a few times after the ref tried to stop it. Keep in mind as well that Yves Lavine stopped it incorrectly as well. He was trying to pull Rampage off from behind, when he should have gotten in between them to prevent the extra hits. Yamasaki stopped the fight as quickly as he could considering where he was standing.

Besides... Bisping deserved it :dance:
 
4Ant4 said:
Something tells me you have never been in a fight......
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What the hell does that have to do with his comment? If you have nothing nice to say then leave.

Hendo was doing what he had to do until the ref stopped it plain and simple.
 
Interesting to note that White had a talking to with both Lesnar and Hendo for their post fight comments.

Hendo for saying he was glad he got the extra shot in, and Brock for pretty much anything he said.

As much as anyone will hate to admit it this totally turns Brock into a villian and now the UFC can hype his challengers as heros. So people will say what he said will drive people away, but if nothing else it should do its job of attracting more people.
 
Turtlelo said:
Exactly, the rule is you keep going until the ref stops you. Rampage was being held while he was throwing those extra hits, but Yves was only holding him, he wasn't trying to pull him back. The correct thing for Lavine to do was to get in between both fighters as soon as he felt Wandy was out and cover him. he shouldn't have tried to pull Quinton off from behind.

Mazzagati's stoppage of the first Mir/Lesnar fight was terrible! Brock tapped on Mir two times, Mazzagatti just stood there and looked like he was more concerned about his own mustache, and Brock was forced to tap again. IMO, Steve should have been disciplined for that.

Babalou held the choke way too long on David Heath. If I remember right, he was fined $20,000 by the Athletic Commission, and the UFC fired him.
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This is fine; personally I think that it is a cop out. It does show a lack of respect; Hendo essentially said he didn't respect him so it makes sense; and one day a shot like Hendo's may seriously injure someone. I hope it never happens though.
 
In a dog fight how do you stop them from killing each other??? You pull them apart. That is the refs job to do the same MMA, boxing, hockey and ect ..... It is also there job to protect the fighter that has been defeated.

Both refs failed to do so last night.

Really wish I could have seen the prelims. How long does UFC keep them up on there website? Would really like to see Danzig bleed all over the place and see CB tap out.
 
Turtlelo said:
Watch Belfort VS Lindland from Affliction in January of this year. Lindland made Bisping look like nothing.
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Hah...that's almost word for word what Jon (Bebop) and I were telling some of the guys last night saying Bisping/Hendo had to be the craziest knockout this year. Jon saw Lindland at a Mariners game a couple months back and he laughed when he was asked how he was doing and said he was fine.
 
I know most of you guys probably hate lesner now but I think he is gonna make the perfect villan. I don't blame him for fingering the crown either. I would have done the same thing if I was getting booed by the crowd.
 
losman#99 said:
What the hell does that have to do with his comment? If you have nothing nice to say then leave.

Hendo was doing what he had to do until the ref stopped it plain and simple.
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Do I really need to spell it out like others have done already? :rolleyes: Fine, if you've ever been in a fight, you know the adrenaline is going and you don't stop until you know your opponent is done fighting back, or in an organized fight you don't stop until the ref stops it. Is that better?
 
Kind of disapointed that Lesner won, hes a punk that has no respect for his opponents or the sport. I'm wondering who really has a chance of beating Lesner in his next fight. Velasquez is probably not ready yet. Maybe Dana White needs to finally bring in Fedor, or bring back Josh Barnett.
 
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