Dany Heatley requests trade

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OK, after thinking things over, I believe the team that would be best suited to take Heatley would be L.A. (that is if they don't trade for Lecavalier first). I can see this deal happening:

L.A. gets Heatley and Sens 1st overall pick (#10)

Ottawa gets Frolov, Jack Johnson & L.A.'s 1st overall pick (#5)

I'd be pretty happy with this deal as it would give us a very good, young possibly franchise type D-man although he seems to come with baggage (his father has now become his agent and that is one of the reasons the Kings are shopping him) plus a top 6 forward and we'd move up in the draft
 
frankiefives said:
OK, after thinking things over, I believe the team that would be best suited to take Heatley would be L.A. (that is if they don't trade for Lecavalier first). I can see this deal happening:

L.A. gets Heatley and Sens 1st overall pick (#10)

Ottawa gets Frolov, Jack Johnson & L.A.'s 1st overall pick (#5)

I'd be pretty happy with this deal as it would give us a very good, young possibly franchise type D-man although he seems to come with baggage (his father has now become his agent and that is one of the reasons the Kings are shopping him) plus a top 6 forward and we'd move up in the draft
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What he said, although I think the picks going both ways might be 2nd and 3rd rounders...
 
I think that would be a good trade for both teams, Frank. Frolov seems to get lost in the shuffle a lot with LA, and Johnson is expendable with LA already having Doughty, Hickey (although I don't like him), and they have Teubert as well, don't they?

Furthermore, Ottawa could grab Brayden Schenn or even Evander Kane if he happens to slip.
 
frankiefives said:
OK, after thinking things over, I believe the team that would be best suited to take Heatley would be L.A. (that is if they don't trade for Lecavalier first). I can see this deal happening:

L.A. gets Heatley and Sens 1st overall pick (#10)

Ottawa gets Frolov, Jack Johnson & L.A.'s 1st overall pick (#5)

I'd be pretty happy with this deal as it would give us a very good, young possibly franchise type D-man although he seems to come with baggage (his father has now become his agent and that is one of the reasons the Kings are shopping him) plus a top 6 forward and we'd move up in the draft
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doesn't seem that is gonna happen, seeing as JmfJ and that pick are in the hands/wings of the Ducks
 
warsawknuckles said:
doesn't seem that is gonna happen, seeing as JmfJ and that pick are in the hands/wings of the Ducks
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The Pronger deal? That's been squashed.

If it IS true, then maybe a deal with the Ducks is in the works for Heatley? Who knows. Corey Perry on his way to Ottawa???
 
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frankiefives said:
The Pronger deal? That's been squashed.

If it IS true, then maybe a deal with the Ducks is in the works for Heatley? Who knows. Corey Perry on his way to Ottawa???
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I doubt Anaheim would shop Perry under any circumstance. Ottawa must definitely consider getting another power-forward if trading Heatley though, because there's nobody on the Ottawa team right now really worthy of playing with Spez and Alfie on a regular basis.
 
If/When Heatley is traded, they should go for a top end defencemen or prospects. Use the free cap space to sign a couple of 2nd tier scorers(Antropov, Afinogenov, Knuble, Kozlov, etc..), that way they can balance the lines a little better, which from looking at the previous 10 pages is a big concern.
 
If the Ducks deal does turn out to be true than maybe it could become a three way trade.

Ducks get: Heatley

Kings get: Pronger

Sens get: JMFJ, Perry, and the 5th from LA
 
BCEaglesfan82 said:
If the Ducks deal does turn out to be true than maybe it could become a three way trade.

Ducks get: Heatley

Kings get: Pronger

Sens get: JMFJ, Perry, and the 5th from LA
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If Ottawa gets that, Murray should instantly be inducted in the Hall of Fame under the new catagorey of GM fleecing. :)

Assuming the rumour of JMFJ and the 5th for Pronger is true it basically works out to

Perry, JMFJ and 5th overall

for

Heatley

I don`t even know what Ottawa could put in that deal to even it out. Maybe if you take out the 5th and Ottawa throws in the 10th overall.
 
I still believe that Murray won't get full value for Heatley because of two reasons. One, his cap hit is huge, and with the cap possibly going down, it will take a team with a lot of room taking him. The teams with that space don't really have a lot in terms of trade bait though, do they. Second, everyone knows Heatley wants out, so other GM's are going to try to lowball the Sens. The same thing happened in the Pronger situation in Edmonton. I really do see the best option for a trade right now as the Oilers.

To Ottawa: Tom Gilbert, Patrick O'Sullivan, Robert Nillson, Rob Schremp,

To Edmonton: Dany Heatley, Chris Neil, 4th round pick.

That gives Ottawa a top line offensive defensman, and three forwards with a lot of skill. O'Sullivan is the key I think, as he could fit on the top line with Spezza and Alfredsson, while Nillson picks up a second line spot and Schremp fills in on the fourth line until he proves he can be as explosive as he could/should be, so the depth issue that Ottawa was facing last season gets a bit of a boost. Edmonton is happy because they finally have a top line scorer to play with Hemsky, and have some added toughness. Its not that far out from a possibility, unless Ottawa doesn't want Nillson, in which case I'm sure Tambelinni could offer a third or fourth round pick to get the deal done.
 
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Interesting everyone keeps bringing up that they won't get full market value... well what is full market value?
Sure if you just look at the player on the ice his value is high... but thats only one part of the value.

His long term contract and cap hit actually bring down his market value... kinda strange but say if he had signed on of those 10 year deals with declining salaries in the last few years and that gave him a cap hit of more in the 5 mill range he would have a much higher market value...

so when and if they trade him they will get his "Full Market Value" just because that value would not be based only on his performance on the ice does not mean its not his "Full Market Value"

Putting this out there so that all teams know that he might be avaliable would increase their chances of getting the best value for him because you could have multiple bidders for his services...

I still think that when the Bruins traded away Thornton they were silly to not let everyone know he was available but its probably a very differnt thing to let it be known in the offseason as it would be to make the same statement during the season...
 
CGS28 said:
Putting this out there so that all teams know that he might be avaliable would increase their chances of getting the best value for him because you could have multiple bidders for his services...
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Not when home boy has a no trade clause AND submits a list of acceptable destinations.

The sens certainly aren't dealing from a position of strength here... and I actually, sorta feel bad for them. They have a pretty significant asset who, for all intents and purposes, has hancuffed them by limiting the number of teams he would be willing to go to. It is his right though having agreed to a No trade (movement?) clause.
 
DredJAw said:
Not when home boy has a no trade clause AND submits a list of acceptable destinations.

The sens certainly aren't dealing from a position of strength here... and I actually, sorta feel bad for them. They have a pretty significant asset who, for all intents and purposes, has hancuffed them by limiting the number of teams he would be willing to go to. It is his right though having agreed to a No trade (movement?) clause.
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This clause should be immediately thrown out when a player DEMANDS a trade. How can you have both? It's total bullcrap. They should revisit the CBA when it comes to this issue
 
Yeah, they do need to do something about that. It's basically like forcing early free agency. Those no movement clauses are garbage and I am glad Brian Burke doesn't believe in them for anyone except the elite players of the NHL.
 
marvelman55 said:
To Ottawa: Tom Gilbert, Patrick O'Sullivan, Robert Nillson, Rob Schremp,

To Edmonton: Dany Heatley, Chris Neil, 4th round pick.
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I like Rob, he's a real class act. Went to see Springfield play Norfolk and he grabbed about 7 to 10 pucks after warmups and tossed them to a bunch of kids, all wearing Admirals gear. A real class act and somebody I'd want on my team. Only player I've seen from a visiting team ever do that.
 
marvelman55 said:
I still believe that Murray won't get full value for Heatley because of two reasons. One, his cap hit is huge, and with the cap possibly going down, it will take a team with a lot of room taking him. The teams with that space don't really have a lot in terms of trade bait though, do they. Second, everyone knows Heatley wants out, so other GM's are going to try to lowball the Sens. The same thing happened in the Pronger situation in Edmonton. I really do see the best option for a trade right now as the Oilers.

To Ottawa: Tom Gilbert, Patrick O'Sullivan, Robert Nillson, Rob Schremp,

To Edmonton: Dany Heatley, Chris Neil, 4th round pick.
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Neil is a UFA with hands of stone who wants 2.5 Mill per.
Take him... PLEASE.
 
Brian Burke ripped Heatley a new one on this article from TSN:

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke let it be known that the Leafs will not be in on the Dany Heatley sweepstakes, and he pulled no punches along the way.

In a phone interview with Deb Placey and Billy Jaffe on NHL Live! broadcast on the NHL network, Burke stated that the Leafs had no interest in the two-time 50 goal scorer, largely because of the way he has chosen to handle his trade request.

"We're not going to be in on that," Burke stated. "He's a good player but I have certain guidelines on how players ask for trades."

Despite being only one year into a six-year, $45 million contract extension, the 28-year old Heatley went public with a trade demand last week, claiming he was unhappy with his role on the team and his relationship with Sens head coach Cory Clouston. Heatley, and his agents, J.P. Barry and Stacey McAlpine's actions did not sit well with Burke.

"When you have players come ask you for a trade, I tell the players 'don't finish that sentence,' because once you ask, I'm going to move you," Burke stated. "If a player wants out, you're darn right I'm going to move you. I'm not kissing anyone's *** to play in my town, so to hell with you, don't finish the sentence. My second rule is if I hear about this, you're not going anywhere."

While Burke stated that he has no problem with players requesting a trade, he was unhappy with Heatley's decision to go public with his request, thus making Senators general manager Bryan Murray's chances of moving the sniper extremely difficult.

"For a player to pop off and say he wants out or leak it (to the media), in my mind you are now no longer interested in your team. If you've done that you've handicapped them, you've handcuffed your GM."

While Burke admitted that the Leafs planned to be very active in the off-season and had plenty of money and cap space at their disposal, the 2002 Calder Trophy winner would not be welcome in Toronto under his tenure.

"As long as you are on that team, you owe them to maximize the asset, and once you've taken that step, sorry I don't accept that."
 
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