McDavid Contract Extension..

sprague11 said:
Wondering if the Oilers get a couple years cheap on the back end out of this contract.
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My guess, no. If anything I believe the deal will start out low ($9M-ish) and ramp up towards $14-15M in actual salary towards the end, averaging out to the $13.25M hit.

This is only McDavid's first contract out of his ELC and won't even take get him to age 30. His second contract will be the one that tapers off towards the end once he's into his late 30's. If he wins Cups and continues to pile up hardware that second deal could easily exceed $15M+ if the cap growth allows it.
 
DredJAw said:
COMPLETELY different argument here.

The argument is what Mcdavid should have signed for. He cant control when the other contracts are due, etc.

(also, you are not wrong. You need cheap entry level deals and/or real valued contracts on the books agreed).
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Yes, that's my point. It is a completely different scenario. That's why it's silly to compare Crosby % cap hit to this Mcdavid deal.
 
I think it's funny how many people are complaining about the, at worst, second best player making too much money. Even at 13.25, or whatever it is, he will be dramatically underpaid. And this deal will be seen as a value in years 5-8, if not sooner.
 
canucksfreak19 said:
That's actually a perfect comp.
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no sir, it isn't. Where is the Malkin-type player at $975K? is that Draisaitl who is rumoured to be asking 9M?
Hockey is a team game, and that includes what you sign your contract for. You need to consider everything if your goal is to win championships.
The more McDavid I hear the more Crosby I like
 
Oilersareback said:
no sir, it isn't. Where is the Malkin-type player at $975K? is that Draisaitl who is rumoured to be asking 9M?
Hockey is a team game, and that includes what you sign your contract for. You need to consider everything if your goal is to win championships.
The more McDavid I hear the more Crosby I like
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I legitimately don't know what your argument is. Honestly.

They had 1 year where Crosby was $8.7M and Malkin was 950K. After that one season, Malkin jumped up to 8.7M himself.

If you haven't noticed they've won a couple cups since (with Letang at $7M, Kessel at $6.8M, Fleury at whatever he was...).
 
Oilersareback said:
no sir, it isn't. Where is the Malkin-type player at $975K? is that Draisaitl who is rumoured to be asking 9M?
Hockey is a team game, and that includes what you sign your contract for. You need to consider everything if your goal is to win championships.
The more McDavid I hear the more Crosby I like
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Actually, you know whats kind of funny?

Draisaitl is an RFA today right? He has no contract for next season. Mcdavid will still be on his entry level deal.

So lets assume Draisaitl signs for $9M today.

That means next season, Draisaitl is $9M and Mcdavid is still at 950K.

Exact same scenario as your Crosby at 8.7M and Malkin at 950K. That was for 1 year as well.

You're getting your 1 yr next year.

Buddy, you have absolutely NO clue what you are even arguing.
 
DredJAw said:
Actually, you know whats kind of funny?

Draisaitl is an RFA today right? He has no contract for next season. Mcdavid will still be on his entry level deal.

So lets assume Draisaitl signs for $9M today.

That means next season, Draisaitl is $9M and Mcdavid is still at 950K.

Exact same scenario as your Crosby at 8.7M and Malkin at 950K. That was for 1 year as well.

You're getting your 1 yr next year.

Buddy, you have absolutely NO clue what you are even arguing.
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you're kinda correct...McDavid cap hit is $925K
So the Oilers have the 2017-18 season to be the 2009 Penguins. After this season kiss any chance at a cup goodbye. Load up Chiarelli
 
The 4YR. $16M contract of Kris Russell is a much worse contract for the Oilers. That contract will hamstring the Oilers more than the McDavid contract.
 
Knocking on a guy for getting paid, I will never understand that. It's a team game, it's up to the OILERS to put the pieces around him. It's not up to him to worry about how they do that. These discussions are insane.

Derek K.
 
MNwild10 said:
Knocking on a guy for getting paid, I will never understand that. It's a team game, it's up to the OILERS to put the pieces around him. It's not up to him to worry about how they do that. These discussions are insane.

Derek K.
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Agreed, hockey is a business just like any other sport, it's about making money, winning a Cup is pretty much secondary anymore. When you get a superstar like McDavid or Crosby or Ovechkin or any other elite caliber player you pay them and lock them up for as long as you can. These players make the team more money than they are paying them. A player like McDavid gets you more advertising revenue, bigger TV and radio money, more merchandise money, and keeps butts in the seats buying your $10 hot dogs and $15 beer. It's a business and smart business people pay their golden eggs.
 
Oilersareback said:
Crosby 2016 2017 cap hit during last two cups was what, 11%. Plus Malkin they are combined 18M. Thats what will work, not paying 23M for McDavid and Draisaitl.
Good God, who is advising this kid?
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You think the Salary Cap is never going up again? His deal will drop in cap % just like Crosby. Again, that's why it is a perfect comp.
 
Does McDavid deserve the money? Absolutely. Could it negatively impact the team from winning a Cup? Perhaps, but can be overcome. Would it reduce the window in which the Oilers could compete for a Cup? Most likely yes.

What doesn't help are the the existing bad contracts. Having to buy out Pouliot eats cap space. Lucic's contract is going to be brutal signing.

What I don't understand is why McDavid's contract numbers got released when he's not a RFA until next year. I get management may want to get him locked in earlier, but get Draisaitl's contract out of the way first.

Is it a negotiation tactic for Draisaitl's contract? Don't ask for too much because we're going to break the bank with McDavid.

So it's going to be important the dollar and term for Draisaitl's contract.

RNH's contract can be dumped too.

Isn't the max according to CBA, that one player's contract can only be max 15% of the salary cap? Or did they get rid of that? IMO, anything more than 15% will really hurt a team.

With that said, if McDavid makes 15% of cap, and Draisaitl is signed long term for under $7M, the Oilers will still have some cap room for rentals, and that's with RNH's contract too.

The Oilers hands aren't totally tied yet.
 
Oilersareback said:
Geez, I feel so much better with your reassurance. Thankful that you're the guy setting the cap #
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So that's a no then. Okay, I don't think that the league is going into the tank, but if do, cool. Again it's the contracts like Kris Russell that will hurt the Oilers; not McDavid.
 


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