Taylor Hall Traded to the Devils for Larsson

Hall is decent on the defensive end for the past few years but that is only because he scores points. Was he sheltered and had more offensive starts than D?

I think that Edmonton got the upper hand in this deal. They needed a solid Dman. This trade gave them a solid Dman for a couple of years with a possible upswing. They gave up points with Hall, but they needed D for the last few years. They may have a good pairing with Darnell Nurse coming in.

Hall will be good with the Devils but he will struggle, posting around 60 points this year in the always d-minded system. (He will score about 25 goals.)
 
NNeves said:
Hall is def the better player but you have to think that salary factors into the equasion. In addition to picking up a top 4 d-man the Oilers shave roughly 3.5 mil off the salary cap, which will of course be used towards bringing in either a different type of forward (Lucic) or another top-4 via free-agency. So, really, it's Larsson and the opportunity to sign another player for the Oilers. But I'm shocked to see this trade ... I definitely thought Taylor Hall was a keeper for the Oil.

On a side note, the Devils have made some very nice moves in the past couple of weeks.
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Huh? Hall's cap hit is $6M and Larsson's is almost $4.2. They save a little over $1.8
 
sdpdesign said:
Hall is decent on the defensive end for the past few years but that is only because he scores points. Was he sheltered and had more offensive starts than D?

I think that Edmonton got the upper hand in this deal. They needed a solid Dman. This trade gave them a solid Dman for a couple of years with a possible upswing. They gave up points with Hall, but they needed D for the last few years. They may have a good pairing with Darnell Nurse coming in.

Hall will be good with the Devils but he will struggle, posting around 60 points this year in the always d-minded system. (He will score about 25 goals.)
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On the defensive end he tries, but he is hardly reliable on the back end. And when you constantly make the same mistake over and over as a fifth year player, turning pucks over at the offensive blue line which turn into great scoring chances without real accountability. Like I said, I'm not upset with this deal from Edmonton's perspective.

The fact is the Oilers needed a top pairing D and you have to trade a big chip in order to get it. And they were dealing from a position where they were top heavy. At this point the Oilers are a better team now than they were April 5th.
 
Edmonton got as much as could have been expected - frankly, I am shocked they got that much. Larsson is a top pair defenseman, is only 23, has a very favorable contract and will be the best d-man that Edmonton has had in...I was going to make a joke but I think I might undersell how bad it's been...

No one was offering anything - rumors abound that they could have gotten a top pairing if they thru in the 4th overall pick this year as well (I heard it was a Western Conference team as opposed to the earlier rumor of Subban but who knows...) but that would have been worse. Now you blow two top five picks on a defenseman instead of just one? How is that any better?

They should have learned from the Canucks a couple years ago - teams know what to ask for when you are pinned into a corner and absolutely have to make a trade. Thinking they could have gotten Larsson plus a pick is wishful thinking at best - but hoping that it would have been a pick of any consequence is foolish.

If you feel any better about, just pretend they got another first round pick in the deal and blew it on someone like Magnus Paajarvi
 
timber09 said:
Edmonton got as much as could have been expected - frankly, I am shocked they got that much. Larsson is a top pair defenseman, is only 23, has a very favorable contract and will be the best d-man that Edmonton has had in...I was going to make a joke but I think I might undersell how bad it's been...

No one was offering anything - rumors abound that they could have gotten a top pairing if they thru in the 4th overall pick this year as well (I heard it was a Western Conference team as opposed to the earlier rumor of Subban but who knows...) but that would have been worse. Now you blow two top five picks on a defenseman instead of just one? How is that any better?

They should have learned from the Canucks a couple years ago - teams know what to ask for when you are pinned into a corner and absolutely have to make a trade. Thinking they could have gotten Larsson plus a pick is wishful thinking at best - but hoping that it would have been a pick of any consequence is foolish.

If you feel any better about, just pretend they got another first round pick in the deal and blew it on someone like Magnus Paajarvi
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The Oilers did have Pronger and his wandering eyes for a bit.
 
I'm more surprised that it wasn't RNH instead of Hall. I guess NJ knew Edm was desperate so asked for the 2nd best forward on the team.
 
Interesting draft tidbits from the 2010 entry draft...

1 - Chiararelli trade both Tyler and Taylor, apparently he just couldn't get that question out of his head.

2 - None of the top six drafted players is on the team that drafted them

3 - 8 of the top 11 are still on their drafted team but one of those is also Alexander Burmistrov who spent two non-rookie years in Russia
 
Everyone knew this was going to happen the only question was which Oiler would go. The Oilers reek of desperation which hurt their chances of getting a real fair deal. I think this helps the Oilers as they get a really good young D. I can't help but feel disappointed as I really like the Oilers and Hall was my favorite current Oiler.
 
As an Oilers fan, I'm very HAPPY Taylor Hall is gone... It sucks for the hobby and his card values. Hall is poison and disease to the young Oilers. He's good on-ice but huge problems off the ice with his bad attitude, spitting on cab drivers face, getting into fights in party clubs, etc.
 
I dont mind the trade
Doing the same thing over and over is not working. Ya Hall is the better player but he has some serious downsides to his game.
He is my favorite player and has been since he was drafted. As such I have intensely watched his play, of which he has not become even close to a complete player
My name for him is Taylor Fall
Guy cant stay on his skates for a full game.
I think oiler fans place too high of a value on Hall. Half of his goals were just because he shoots so much he got lucky.
Would have liked a better dman in return but what fan doesnt want more for their players
 
Chiararelli pretty much ran Boston into the ground with his moves there imo. He might get saved in Edmonton just because they have so many top prospects; but c'mon, you basically traded away Seguin and Hall for nothing. Larsson is good but most likely a number 2 or number 3 and I wish him luck playing on that backend....
Hall may have issues the same as Seguin did but both are young. Seguin seems to be doing well now character wise. There is obviously no one in that Edmonton locker room to set Hall straight and provide leadership. That is a fault of management. I have heard this one phrased many different ways but in the words of Napoleon, "There are no bad regiments; there are only bad colonels."
 
When you have a team of young potential future stars who are high draft picks and no veteran leadership in the room you expect some issues. Edmonton management totally mis managed this entire rebuild. They should be a powerhouse by now instead they are still competing for last place. The Oilers have always been my second favorite team, it's been such a disappointment watching them waste such a great situation. They are desperate for D and some vet leadership and will likely over pay for both. No surprise that they gave up Hall, if they called me looking for a young stud D I would go after their top available player as well. Great move by the Devils. Hopefully Larrson plays well and helps turn things around. Hall was there for 6 unsuccessful team years, at least they are now moving in the right direction...can't be much worse than last year.
 
dismonkey1 said:
Chiararelli pretty much ran Boston into the ground with his moves there imo. He might get saved in Edmonton just because they have so many top prospects; but c'mon, you basically traded away Seguin and Hall for nothing. Larsson is good but most likely a number 2 or number 3 and I wish him luck playing on that backend....
Hall may have issues the same as Seguin did but both are young. Seguin seems to be doing well now character wise. There is obviously no one in that Edmonton locker room to set Hall straight and provide leadership. That is a fault of management. I have heard this one phrased many different ways but in the words of Napoleon, "There are no bad regiments; there are only bad colonels."
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Leadership starts at the top. For hockey teams this is a good owner, then working it's way down through the subsequent ranks.

Chiarelli is not looking so hot right now. Everyone is bitter. Hall. McDavid. The fans. Sure, there's a handful of people that say this was the move to make, good deal, but that's only because they don't like Taylor Hall. ;)

I slept on this one, woke up, reassessed, and yup, it's still a bad trade for Edmonton considering all they have to work with as far as assets!

Saw a great quote from an NHL executive who said "We didn't even know Hall was available? If we had we would have STARTED with two future 1st rounders AND a 2nd pairing d man."

But Chiarelli apparently jumped the gun and ran with Larsson. Or everyone just hates Edmonton with 4 numbers ones in 6 years and aren't looking to help them. This trade is Exhibit A of that. Curious see what's (who) is next?
 
TheGriceBoys said:
Leadership starts at the top. For hockey teams this is a good owner, then working it's way down through the subsequent ranks.

Chiarelli is not looking so hot right now. Everyone is bitter. Hall. McDavid. The fans. Sure, there's a handful of people that say this was the move to make, good deal, but that's only because they don't like Taylor Hall. ;)

I slept on this one, woke up, reassessed, and yup, it's still a bad trade for Edmonton considering all they have to work with as far as assets!

Saw a great quote from an NHL executive who said "We didn't even know Hall was available? If we had we would have STARTED with two future 1st rounders AND a 2nd pairing d man."

But Chiarelli apparently jumped the gun and ran with Larsson. Or everyone just hates Edmonton with 4 numbers ones in 6 years and aren't looking to help them. This trade is Exhibit A of that. Curious see what's (who) is next?
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there has to be more to it. there must be something on the inside maybe like a mike Richards and jeff carter thing, where he is young rich and maybe likes the party life....... rumor had it that he was a partier and maybe that's the reason they traded him........ I'm pretty sure he could've gotten more but maybe ( I highly doubt it ) reuniting him with Henrique might change his party life and look at life differently
only time will tell but I'm shocked as much as you are , I honestly thought hall would get traded but I thought he would've gone to Detroit
Hall Henrique, ryan ellis , still come back to Windsor during the off season and hang out, maybe you might see ryan ellis become a devil as well
 

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